ILM GONNA CRAWL — Led Zeppelin poll RESULTS THREAD

"Friends" isn't twee, it's sinister. It's very easy.

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Exactly, it's dark and foggy, not twee

I usually skip this song but I do like Page's main riff.

I can't think of any "twee" LZ moments. Plant's voice was twee-proof.

Friends just missed my regular ballot

I made a hate ballot as an afterthought; I only remember 2 of the songs I put on it.

Sorry, its hard for me to think of any song with lyrics like, "I'm tellin' you now / the greatest thing you ever can do now / is trade a smile with someone who's blue, now" as "dark" or "sinister".

Yeah, but 'Livin for what you knew' is hauntingly vague.

Tbh I wish I had voted for more songs on III

The closest to twee Zeppelin sounded to me was "That's The Way," and if that's twee, then pour me a big glass of twee.

man this is already crazy as fuckkkkk!

The closest to twee Zeppelin sounded to me was "That's The Way," and if that's twee, then pour me a big glass of twee.

Make that two big glasses.

crunge haters go jump off a confounded bridge IMO

I'll add up the number of hate-ballots and give that number in a little while. I've been putting some lunch together.

Speaking of lunch...

8. "Hot Dog" — 15 points (5 votes, no #1s)

Five #2s for Hot Dog sounds about right

I mentioned this as a throwaway track in the other thread and it kind of is: last song on the first side of the album.

crunge haters go jump off a confounded bridge IMO

― fela cudi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:48 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

Princess, you still planning on doing a tracks ballot?

hot dog is kinda cute

Funny how some of the best compliments you can give The Crunge and Friends is how cool it is when the next song comes on.

I'm not a Crunge hater, but I can see why of all the HotH songs packaged in the first box set, that was the only one that got left behind.

Think how great that album would be if Side One ended with "Houses of the Holy". Physical Graffiti's second side would suffer, but that's beside the point.

Page's worst guitar solo on a Zep record.

Fun song though obviously not intended to be taken seriously. Should have been saved for the Honeydrippers EP where it would have fit in.

"Friends" was in my top 10 though! Guitar lick ripped off from CSNY's "Carry On though", albeit in a modal key

I like my folky Zep, just not my super twee Zep

how is Friends a twee song...? it's a blues riff!

when i hear the crunge i'm all like booooowmp...bowmp-bowmp, bowmp-bowmp...boooooowmp

Friends sounds positively sinister imho

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Gotta admit I voted for this one. Cuteness aside, it did not deserve to make the record. They could have just added 5 minutes to "Carouselambra" instead.

"Hot Dog", that is

Page's worst guitar solo on a Zep record.

yep, noted this on the noms thread. it's pitiful.

how is Friends a twee song...? it's a blues riff!

The lyrics about sharing smiles are pretty twee, imho.

7. "Moby Dick" — 15 points (5 votes, two #1 votes)

WmC i'll give it a shot

#1 votes being the tiebreaker between this and "Hot Dog," obv

Was just listening to it specifically for the solo. A lot of his are rubbish imo - Over The Hills And Far Away runs into the sand horribly in the third quarter, and in that 50s song that was posted on the voting thread yesterday he's such a momentum-killer. Like I say, the weak link.

Would have thought "Hot Dog" would vie for top 3 most hated, but I guess it is so throw-away that it doesn't rankle like what I imagine some of the final most hateds will, like you gotta have more at stake to truly hate something.

Moby Dick as done by a full band is great. 45 minute drum solos not so much.

Moby Dick blatantly only exists to give the other three a half-hour's break to get up to gawd know what backstage.

crunge haters go jump off a confounded bridge IMO

Better than "Bonzo's Montreux"

i did not hatevote for Moby Dick but I probably could/should've...

I think watching Bonham do it on the recent live DVD has reconciled me tot the idea that it may not have been a horrible idea; still helps to sink II though

i voted for moby dick. not a big fan of most drum solos.

"Bonzo's Montreux" is fucking cool IMO. Especially as a tacked on track from a cobbled together record. It's like the Art of Noise before there was the Art of Noise.

Drum solo aside the guitar riff in Moby Dick is just fucking massive. Haters gonna hate, I guess.

If "Moby Dick" had a drum solo like Edgar Winter Group's "Frankenstein" (i.e., shorter) then it would be awesome: great riff and great Page guitar fills in the second iteration of the riff.

There were 37 hate-ballots, btw.

did anyone make a hate ballot and nothing else?

xps The Kinks' 'You Really Got Me' is Page as well I believe - another terrible solo imo. He's good at riffs though.

Otoh Stairway and Achilles are as good as solos get.

The Kinks' 'You Really Got Me' is Page as well I believe

thought this had been pretty well refuted

also that solo is awesome wtf

did anyone make a hate ballot and nothing else?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:19 PM (2 minutes ago)

Nope.

My favorite thing about the "Stairway" solo is that on his last tour, Zappa covered that song and arranged Page's solo for the horn section to play.

"You Really Got Me" one of the all-time great solos, feeling trumps technique x1000

6. "Whole Lotta Love" — 16 points (4 votes, 3 #1 votes)

i definitely would've put whole lotta love on my tiredest-ofs

Because you love Zep and Robert Plant is awesome.

if there's a moment where "rock music" became crystallized from its pan-racial and pansexual roots into music for dumb, pissed-off white boys, zep and sabbath are probably it.

disagree. this is a very Gen X way of looking at rock music history.

there's a

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It seems like a shallow basis for a musical critique anyway.

"Why should I listen to this when this exists" I do not get this

Watched the Knebworth '79 show off the DVD set tonight for the first time in a long long while. Daaaamn if Page wasn't in full Dark Guitar Lord mode - linen getup notwithstanding - that night. Amazing playing from him up to "Kashmir" (which didn't seem to require too much thought or effort on his behalf I would imagine). Listened on 'phones for maximum impact.

We Gonna Groove
Yeah Groove
Yeah we gonna groove babe
Lord mama yeah

sippin booze is precedent as the evening starts to glow

"Why should I listen to this when this exists" I do not get this

― brimstead

oh, i'm on board with zep, will be on board with zep until i die, but zep will never be my queer heroes

Well yes, few of the criticisms these writers leveled at Zeppelin weren’t also completely valid criticisms of Cream, etc. But Zeppelin were more like Vikings: they were arrogant

part of the irony is that Cream did long boring blues songs

Watched the Knebworth '79 show off the DVD set tonight for the first time in a long long while. Daaaamn if Page wasn't in full Dark Guitar Lord mode - linen getup notwithstanding - that night. Amazing playing from him up to "Kashmir" (which didn't seem to require too much thought or effort on his behalf I would imagine). Listened on 'phones for maximum impact.

Wow there was a half-written post in there too upthread that the app kept. Oh well.

Guitar-nerd detail from a recent Marc Maron interview with Joe Walsh:

Page thought his Telecaster (the Dragon Tele he painted himself and played with the Yardbirds) sounded too thin for the meaty music he wanted to make with Zep. Les Pauls, with their thick double humbuckers, were hard to find in the UK, so Walsh gave him one of his — the iconic sunburst LP that Page turned into one of the most famous guitars ever.

Another reason why Jimmy abandoned his Dragon Tele:

http://www.feelnumb.com/2011/01/10/jimmy-pages-1958-fender-dragon-telecaster-guitar/

xpost Except of course iirc the Tele was the first call guitar for the first two albums, and obv. he used it occasionally after, and it sounds great, but maybe he was just able to give it some extra oomph in the studio and needed to go Les Paul live?

Yeah, I think it was mainly for live performance. It's funny seeing Page with a Fender Strat at Knebworth; a little window into what New Wave Zep might have been.

first two plant solo albums are as close as we got

Check out the version of TSRtS on LZ DVD. It's an easter egg on one of the menu screens, shot with fan footage from what looks like a theater balcony. Sets the place on fire.

― SongOfSam, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 04:13 (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Where is this pls, is it a hidden thing on the DVD DVD?