Devendra Banhart: "i see so many little boys I want to marry"

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Actually, how many (pseudo-)pedophiliac songs are there out there? George Michael's "Father Figure"? Heaven 17's "Come Live With Me" ("I am 37/You were 17/You were half my age/The youth I'd never seen")?

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"in the same way one might think "That baby is so cute I want to eat it up"."

Baby Eater!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Momus may have the point, although I have yet to see a boy that cute, they're orrible things...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, momus's argument is simple and convincing.

that said, i think there's a clear difference of degree between that Heaven 17 tune and a happy-go-round song whose centre is the chorus "i see plenty little kids i have yet to have!"

this song would be better if it was "i will follow him".

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

creeeeeeepy. i mean, just how "little" is this girl:

"Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl,
Than to be with another man.
You better keep your head, little girl,
Or you won't know where I am.

You better run for your life if you can, little girl;
Hide your head in the sand, little girl;
Catch you with another man,
That's the end, little girl.

Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life tryin'
Just to make you tow the line.

You better run for your life if you can, little girl;
Hide your head in the sand, little girl;
Catch you with another man,
That's the end, little girl.

Let this be a sermon,
I mean everything I've said.
Baby, I'm determined
That I'd rather see you dead.

You better run for your life if you can, little girl;
Hide your head in the sand, little girl;
Catch you with another man,
That's the end, little girl.

I'd rather see you dead, little girl,
Than to be with another man.
You better keep your head, little girl,
Or you won't know where I am.

You better run for your life if you can, little girl;
Hide your head in the sand, little girl;
Catch you with another man,
That's the end, little girl.

Na, na, na.
Na, na, na.
Na, na, na."

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:44 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah scott - run for your life has always been a terrifying song to me. but then so is that enrique iglesias song about running and hiding and yet not being able to escape his "love". xpost

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

"Little Girl" = "Baby" back in the early sixties.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i know. still creepy though. i was actually more creeped out by my 45 of lou christie's top 40 rape-fantasy "Lightning Strikes" when I was a kid. and as far as the beatles went, nothing beat that dead dog's custardy eye for me.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

yup it is a bizarre song.

its like rockabilly....

hey dan, i'll get the link fixed tomorrow. sorry about that. still haven't got the box set but looking forward to it.

i love the devendra banhart album. its cool. its so messy i love that quality about it.

doomie x, Monday, 18 July 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Oooh, obtuse lyricism! Controversial imagery! Sexual overtones! This isn't music -- this is utter perversion!

Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't anyone going to do a Michael Jackson joke?

OK. What's black and comes in a little white can?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link


Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl,
You're much too young, girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe
You're old enough
To give me Love
And now it hurts to know the truth, Oh,
Beneath your perfume and make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
And though you know
That it is wrong to be
Alone with me
That come on look is in your eyes, Oh,
So hurry home to your mama
I'm sure she wonders where you are
Get out of here
Before I have the time
To change my mind
'Cause I'm afraid we'll go too far, Oh,
Young girl

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

looks like the ILX servers took a trip back in time there between the MJ joke and Van Morrison...

jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Devendra Banhart a Sufi?

scott, I'm not totally comfortable with your comparison to "little girl." Is it really the same? Is "little boy" used as commonly when someone (male or female) is talking about a male love interest as "little girl" is (or maybe was?--I can't say I hear it very often)? Just because it's the flip side doesn't mean it's conotations are going to be symmetrical. I'm raising the question, though, I'm not saying I know how commonly it might be used. It does sound familiar the way "little girl" does.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

it isn't used as commonly, rockist. devendra definitely wants to raise eyebrows. which is fine. i just like to cut & paste lyrics.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

barn raising
pants raising
raisin smuggling( deans planet nom de nipple erections)
smug raison
razed eyebrowz
hair(less) raisins in th sun dappled by dew

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"Children, behave!"
That's what they say when we're together.
"And watch how you play!"
They don't understand.
And so we're running just as fast as we can,
Holding on to one another's hands.
Trying to get away into the night,
And then you put your arms around me
and we tumble to the ground,
And then you say, "I think we're alone now.
There doesn't seem to be anyone around.
I think we're alone now.
The beating of our hearts is the only sound."
Look at the way
We gotta hide what we're doing.
Cause what would they say
If they ever knew?
And so we're running just as fast as we can,
Holding on to one another's hands.
Trying to get away into the night,
And then you put your arms around me
and we tumble to the ground,
And then you say, "I think we're alone now.
There doesn't seem to be anyone around.
I think we're alone now.
The beating of our hearts is the only sound."
"I think we're alone now.
There doesn't seem to be anyone around.
I think we're alone now.
The beating of our hearts is the only sound."

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"How is working with a full band different from recording solo?

Banhart: This isn't the stoned jam record I will someday make in Portland, or the space reggae vibe fest it coulda been. It was... well, "what do you hear on this one?" and so we found that sound. We had a lot of help finding musicians from Dan Bunny from the great The BunnyBrains."

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

jeez, it's gotta be a mess. now i wanna hear it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link

nice pix, danny:

http://www.billtmiller.com/bunnybrains/

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah guess im fine w the whole lets redefine little, thing

007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

or marry haha

007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

ts boys vs kids

007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what exactly, but something tells me that this Devendra song is about a pedeophile. It's hard to tell though because of the subtlety involved, but I have a suspicion.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

showers be ambiguous!

007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link

its definitely, obviously, no doubt about it.. about pedophelia, for sure. not that you'll take my word, but i'm not sure what else he has to say? its pretty blatant, so mabye we want to make it more complicated to hopefully..obscure the meaning? p.s. -gay marriage comment had me laughing.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps more to the point, this song is rather boring.

Spoke too soon, this is growing on me.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

it could be that scott is closer than it seems with the "little girl" bit.

plain swapping boy for girl and then not really changing things otherwise may be simple gender based word play. its interesting to wonder who'd be paying attention at all if he'd used the well worn "little girl" phrase.

Nancy Sinatra swaps in boy in her version of "Run for Your Life" and noone's after her for it. of course, in that case we have yr standard heterosexual heirarchy in place. That make's this whole discussion seem to be overly concerned with sex side of it. If joanna newsome, say wrote this would there be such a discussion.

given devendras perfomrmances as abra and obvious lack of concern for gender rules and his stated interest in writing songs that exist more like old standards or folk songs, i think too much reading into his motives here is easily too much

b b, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

from what I've heard of this album sampler and "Little Boys," I quite enjoy the direction Devendra Banhart has taken. Some of these songs sound have a live, spontaneous feeling, and it works. I did enjoy Nino and RITH, and seeing him live was great, too. He put on quite a show.

white boi, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link


Gary Puckett clearly has control issues, if you've listened to his oeuvre. Lou Christie is more into hystrionics.

crown victoria (dymaxia), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Might just be an absurdist thing. What if he substituted the word "frogs" or "serpents" for "boys" . Total psyche move.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i listened to "michigan state" last night and it made me really sad.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

ach, i think i'm wrong. after listening to the delivery being so 60's ish etc, it does sounds sorta like a "little girl" thing. but he's also trying hard to sound creepy, so...it seems fairly ambiguous. and i think this is somewhat of a tiny tim rip-off. and was also just bored with it in general.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 21 July 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Here you go, Devendra. Just swap "Irene" with "Ian":

I asked your mother for you
She told me that you was too young
I wish to the Lord I’d never seen your face
or heard your lying tongue
Irene goodnight, Irene goodnight
Goodnight Irene, Goodnight Irene

rd, Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link


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