gift
― Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont get how anyone can get aspie "arghhh i hate that song!" about these trax -- its like either u like the vu or you dont why fight it? this is what they are
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Thursday, 18 December 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sister Ray" for me - I mean, I guess everybody "gets over" Sister Ray & it loses it power, but I will never forget sitting in my teenage room getting my mind properly blown when the organ really starts to work and the bass drops out and comes back and the vocals kick back in, and trying to figure out the lyrics - I don't know, I guess what I mean is "it's a really personal vote for me." But I had heard rumors of Sister Ray before I heard it, and then when I finally did hear it, it did not disappoint.
"Heard Her Call My Name" a very close 2nd.
― J0hn D., Thursday, 18 December 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ejpcnn
― dan selzer, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm at work, so I can't look at that link -- what is it?
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
lou reed having sex with batman
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sister Ray" for me - I mean, I guess everybody "gets over" Sister Ray & it loses it power, but I will never forget sitting in my teenage room getting my mind properly blown when the organ really starts to work and the bass drops out and comes back and the vocals kick back in, and trying to figure out the lyrics - I don't know, I guess what I mean is "it's a really personal vote for me."
otm ^^^. This whole album was like this for me. Although I didn't hear it until that fairly decent CD remastering job released in the nineties, nothing, not even The Velvet Underground and Nico prepared me for how transgressive and fun this album was.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link
while we're at it, let's hear it for the guy on the far right:http://www.britannica.com/psychedelic/images/opsyroc099p1.jpgTom Wilson! A guy who knew how to get outta the way and let people like the VU, Zappa and Dylan make awesome records. (From what I hear, this pic is pretty representative of his hands-off production style).
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Also produced Sun Ra!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
too tough can't pick
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
And Cecil Taylor! And Simon & Garfunkel! Yeahhhhh!xpost
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Tom Wilson, RIP
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
It is kind of interesting -- I wonder how much biz collateral Wilson had because of his big hits with Dylan/S&G, and whether that made a big difference in getting records like the VU's and Zappa's released? Because honestly, especially, WL/WH -- it's kind of amazing that a big label released that in 1968.
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Should have been out in 1967 of course.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
It got delayed in the release schedule when the Mothers album was pushed up.
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
What, again? Didn't that happen to the 1st Velvets's album too?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Thought the first one was delayed because of the picture of the dude on the back of the cover -- he wouldn't give them permission to use it or something. Eric's Trip. Also, problems with the Banana.
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
link above is the Cabs cover version.
The organ in Sister Ray...the moment when Cale plays this Riley/Glass-esque bassline and seems to just decide to turn it up to 11, I'm looking at you 12 minutes and 26 seconds, that's it for me.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
No, no, not a second time, I made that up.(xxpost)
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
He invents Suicide in the course of that song too (xp)
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
ha
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
sweet -- thanks for the mp3, dan. What are some other WL/WH covers? Joy Division/New Order do Sister Ray ... Feelies do the title track. I heard Yo La Tengo do Heard Her Call My Name. Has anyone ever done Lady Godiva? Or The Gift? That last one probably not ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess i'll vote the title track. i love the call-and-response-ish vocal lines. also how cheerful it is -- not enough drug songs (including most of lou's) make drugs sound fun. "tickle me down to my toes"! but the album's pretty flawless. even "the gift," which for me is in the library of great '60s absurdism.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Has anyone ever done Lady Godiva?
Oh yes, the Fatima Mansions!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
hmm! never heard that one! what's it from?
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Some tribute album, I think
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
― J0hn D.,
STOP READING MY THOUGHTS, J0HN D.!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
The Feelies did What Goes On.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Bowie did "White Light/ White Heat" many a time
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Is “Guess I’m Falling in Love” from these sessions... cuz I love that song more than anything on WL/WH </challops>
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, was "Guess" actually recorded at the WL/WH sessions? Funny how different it sounds -- mainly the drums -- since it probably wasn't mixed til the 80s. Too bad it doesn't have vocals! Still, that Morrison solo is fucking off the hook. Are there any other outtakes? I don't think that "Mr. Rain" was recorded at the same time ... I guess "Sister Ray" was legendarily recorded in one take, so there aren't any alts of that ... Just different mixes.
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Half Japanese does a great "Heard Her Call My Name". (Mo Tucker on drums)
― WmC, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
aw yeah, forgot about that one! it is great. who else has attempted "sister ray"? other than my high school garage band ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, was "Guess" actually recorded at the WL/WH sessions?
It was recorded in December '67. WL/WH was September.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Hm! Think if they had put out a single with "Guess" and "Stephanie Says"... Number one hit!
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
who else has attempted "sister ray"? There's a great cover on Mike Rep and the Quotas STUPOR HIATUS that really emphasizes the bouncy poppiness of the riff. You could call "roadrunner" a sister ray cover, too. Speaking of Modern Lovers, there's a nice "Foggy Notion" on Live at the Longbranch, dating from a time when no one had really heard "foggy notion."
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
New Order has a good cover.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, rocket from the tombs do "foggy notion" too. i wonder where they all heard it? ii can imagine that jonathan richman just committed it to memory. and i guess all those cleveland dudes might've heard various bootleg recordings of those La Cave shows ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that is correct, Peter Laughner def. recorded some of those gigs.
When I started looking for this album it was like 1983 and impossible to find, my mom eventually sprung for an Xmas or Bday present of what eventually turned out to be a counterfeit copy, which I still have.
LGO for me. Also, TS: original black cover VS English white cover
― sleeve, Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
there's also this oddityhttp://991.com/gallery_180x180/Velvet-Underground-White-LightWhite-369413-991.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
oops yeah that is the "white" cover I was referring to.
― sleeve, Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
it is kind of a cool cover!
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"who else has attempted "sister ray"? "
There are at least a couple of versions by Suicide - the one I remember is off the "We never said we were music" boot, which has a long section stripped down to Rev ringing the changes on his FX pedals on the basic riff. There's a devastating version by Dr. Mix and the Remix (most of Metal Urbain) on their classic "Wall of Noise" album. Oh, and I think some obscure Manc punk act used to do it live as well.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
more information here:
http://acuterecords.com/releases/act006_drMix.html
― dan selzer, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link
the 3ds did 'lady godiva's operation' live once. it was pretty good.
― cb, Friday, 19 December 2008 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
It was Jamie Klimek of the Mirrors, wasn't it? Peter Laughner would have been 15 or 16 in 1967/68.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Friday, 19 December 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think Klimek is the one responsible for those La Cave tapes, found on Sweet Sister Ray and Problems in Urban Living. In other words, the guy is an American hero.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Not to mention all the great Mirrors songs that sound like the Velvets.
― dan selzer, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah! Thanks for the link to the Dr. Mix info -- I gotta make a big Acute order at some point -- I still need those Lines discs!
― tylerw, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link