https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ki4GUz5Qwg
lol
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 June 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
so sad:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_rise_and_fall_of_sly_stone_qijyKoYzmAqer1PA0YogSJ
― geeta, Monday, 26 September 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
that is very sad.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link
I want to say in that MOJO piece a couple of years ago that he was living in semi-squalor even then. Anyway, the guy's nuts and an addict. But most guys don't carry around a "get out of poverty" card like he does. If he could get his act together, he could play a few shows. But even Gil-Scott was doing better than this ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
resonance had an hour or two about sly stone, sometime, um, within the last year that's really worth checking out.
― Crackle Box, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
cocaine is so awesome!
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
ugh wtf.
― tylerw, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to see the documentary they mention, but it looks like it barely played anywhere. It's only 74 minutes long, has eight IMDB ratings, and debuted on Netherlands television.
― clemenza, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
wow, that's bad. He's basically like the homeless dude on our block, with about the same support network (ie neighbors).
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste
Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.
― Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
oh good autotune
― Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
...please tell me you're kidding.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Ned, I'm so sorry, but the universe from which I am transmitting this news is not in some alternate parallel plane.
― Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
My brain. Do you have a direct link to this info anywhere? People must be warned.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
It's called (wait for it...) "I'm Back: Family and Friends" and here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Family-Friends-Sly-Stone/dp/B0057JWWFU
― Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
^^it got like, three stars in Rolling Stone.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
so, almost as good as the SuperHeavy album then
― Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah there was a display for this at Barnes & Noble, I picked it up and gave a firm shake of my head.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Sly is not credited as having played on the remake tracks; aside from the guest cameos the instruments were all played by Jurgen Engler and Chris Lietz. Hadn't heard of them but Wikipedia tells me they're former members of the German industrial rock band Die Krupps.
― fit and working again, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
It's available on spotify if you're a masochist http://open.spotify.com/album/52C9QFWsfF3Kzb8riRPJzj if you thought that 'Dance To The Music' really needed Ray Manzarek to noodle all over it then it might be for you I guess.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
this is awesome?seriously i would buy a record of this, it totally has the kinda slinky shuffly thing i love the most about sly. am really surprised + wanna hear more
― mr. vertical (schlump), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
it is not awesome
― Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
I hear what you're saying about it containing some of his readily identifiable stylistic tics but still
― Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
"if i didn't love you, i wouldn't like your ass at all..."
i dig it
― elan, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
"Family Stone" are touring here in a month or two* - anyone know who's in this apart from Vet Stone (og backing singer) and Cynthia Robinson (og horn/backing singer)?
*on a festival with Flaming Lips, Mogwai, Portishead, Death In Vegas, Holy Fuck and Mercury Rev
― robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
I would buy a record of songs like that. It's really not bad.
― Carpet Sharkin' (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:38 (twelve years ago) link
Esp if they were hazy weirdly recorded demos like that.
yeah. i don't know whether there would be an inevitable 'let's get these into a studio & do them justice!' phase, at which the guy from the behind the scenes seinfeld segments who explains the various keyboard motifs used in the show suddenly pops up. but i would buy a record of those demos, word.
Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.
yeah it is just- like i would have expected some kind of watered down 'take' on the group's bigger/more out there in your face stuff rather than something that sits comfortably in the parameters of sloochy-solo-weird-keyboard jams
― mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
the winding, kinda bluesy vocal melody & the keyboard part that comes in half way through are both great, i really love this
― mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
& the keyboards/organs sound great, the underlying organ part is like a robert lippok record or something
― mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
jeeeezus this is grim
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
have not watched, but assuming that tmz just zipped over to the guy's trailer to dig some dirt, maybe the documentary guy shouldn't have written a story about how sly lives in a van, included its permanent address & sold it to the post
― mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think TMZ did the interview, it was originally posted here...?
http://www.5min.com/Video/Exclusive---Homeless-Music-Legend-Sly-Stone-Admits-To-Recent-Drug-Use-517169072
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
that was so sad I had to stop watching. One thing's clear, though--Sly's voice is gone...hell Sly himself seems nearly gone. I'd rather see that dude get healthy than hear any new music.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
can barely bring myself to contemplate what's happened to the guy, 'riot' is sometimes my favorite album ever and 'stand' ain't far behind. just terrible to think about.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
This vintage clip is wonderful. Check out the face of the girl at 0:27. As a friend on Twitter pointed out, it reminds you what it was like before everybody became conscious of being on camera. It's pure, unselfconscious joy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdVClbOYwI&feature=related
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 07:51 (twelve years ago) link
It was also before they invented being jaded. Also, crossing your arms and frowning.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
HE SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH BUTTERMILK!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Ll2AleUY0
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
Sly's voice is gone...hell Sly himself seems nearly gone. I'd rather see that dude get healthy than hear any new music.
^^^
decades of crack/cocaine is really hard on the vocal chords
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of funk, isn't George Clinton allegedly a longtime functioning crack/cocaine addict?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
yeah - GC's last arrest for cocaine/crack was in the parking lot of 7/11 in Ohio somewhere iirc...? That Clinton is even still alive and performing is a small miracle. (His voice, which was never all that melodious to begin with, is completely shot too btw). I'm not aure how Clinton has managed to keep going while someone like Sly falls by the wayside. Part of it may just be that Clinton has a much bigger support network/organization, I dunno...
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
What Sly needs is a Phil intervention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLH32F6Xvkw
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Clinton kinda tight with the old purse strings... according to various ex P-Funkers
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah there's that
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
Clinton also seems willing/eager to work though - tours constantly, guest appearances, albums, etc.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
He's been a businessman since he ran the barbershop back in Plainfield
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
Parliafunkadelicment never had the massive hits that Sly did, so their commercial troughs wouldn't have been very deep (and therefore, disillusioning/disheartening/demoralizing), compared to Sly's. But yeah, Clinton never stopped touring (and he generally tended to show up to his shows).
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Mind you, think he's been bankrupt at least once
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link