Afrofutrism (space is the place )

Eh, that's all sorta getting at the same thing, and in ways that others have done better. But I still think Eshun is full of it. Oh, and I'd categorize af less as any defined movement than a loose continuity of heresy which spans genres fairly thoroughly.

As far as Delany, the stuff I've read by him has seemed less concerned with either race or gender than general epistemological concerns of postmodernism.

I never reread the Neveryona stuff: I found it tiresome (but now am big Xena-fan I might revisit...). Dhalgren predates his encounter (anyone's) with PoMo proper (not that PoMo exists, but that's completely another argt: anyway, SD thinks it does): it contains unstable narrative devices, tho they're more a pretext for lyric social realism (Oakland in the late 60s) impossible in a trad context (consider it a generous and fascinating and insightful portrait of eg the milieu of the Black Panthers, w/o having to trip out on irrelevant "political" assent or refusal). Triton has a huge semi-explanatory "post- structuralist" afterword which I have never bothered finishing. I think SD is the classic example of someone who'd gone far down a road on his own, then found this portentous French bizwoz that seemingly affirmed his lonely insight, leapt in relievedly with both feet as spouter-supporter, and took a long long long time to rediscover his actual own more powerful unaffirmed vision. (ie Derrida = kewl by me but he never wrote anything like Hogg...)

This thread is a little curious - should it be strange that a black person is into sci-fi? The science fiction influences mentioned at the start were pretty huge through pop culture in general, and it would be strange if some artistes in every genre hadn't absorbed them into their music at some point.

Finally got around to Space is the Place and, in addition to it being great, it kind of tied a bunch of things together for me that I hadn't really made the obvious connection between before - the Nation of Islam's "mothership" thing, the art on 70s Miles Davis albums, P-Funk, etc. I've always found it kind of interesting how there seems to have been a kind of parallel or alternate black psychedelic era where the drugs were the same and there were a lot of ostensible aesthetic similarities but really things were coming from a very different place.

This thread looks like one of those actually-worth-reading earlier ILM threads and I'll get around to it soon but it's bedtime.

octavia e. butler surely belongs on this thread. and this too:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61XO5tsD5SL._SS500_.jpg

not to mention this:

http://dreamchimney.com/slvs/B000008U0X.01.LZZZZZZZ_20060809040117.jpg

is there like a taschen book or something of afrofuturist album covers and artwork? i would buy.

Can we just post pictures of them in the meantime?

http://bp1.blogger.com/_so03YBYbtLs/R3XWmJ1qIKI/AAAAAAAABGo/2vViQru8sDM/s400/Miles+Davis+Live+Evil.jpg

http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~mdst322/miles_davis_-_bitches_brew_.jpg

http://www.hollowearth.org/images/jazz/hancock/hancock_flood.jpg

http://www.arthurmag.com/magpie/images/Sunra_v1_FLAT.jpg

fuk I do need to go to bed though

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2122/2299348506_cc1de533a5.jpg?v=0

http://www.softshoe-slim.com/covers2/e/ewf03.jpg

I <3 <3 <3 Afrofuturism.

how awesome is this shirt btw
http://store.okayplayer.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=177

Finally got around to Space is the Place

Would that be the film or the biography? Or the soundtrack album, or the NON-soundtrack album? (Don't mean to deprive you of sleep, Hurting - you can reply tomorrow!)

The Arkestra will always play for one week at ZXZW http://www.zxzw.nl/2008/event/11

It was the film. Great film!

Just got that King Britt comp called Cosmic Lounge - the Brother Ah track is simply incredible.

http://bam150years.blogspot.com/2015/03/space-is-place-afofuturist-music-videos.html

Brooklyn film series includes Space Is the Place

http://www.bam.org/film/2015/space-is-the-place-afrofuturism-on-film

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/movies/space-is-the-place-offers-otherworldly-takes-on-identity.html

http://www.nassauweekly.com/ferguson-is-the-future/

I quickly understood that this event would go beyond the usual when Professor Benjamin began with a call and response of a quote from renowned sci fi author Octavia E. Butler. Three times, she proclaimed, “There is nothing new under the sun,” and each time the audience chanted back, “But there are new suns.”

http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news/55263/eight_col_Patea_Maori_Club%E2%80%99s_Aku_Raukura.jpg
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/nat-music/audio/201782605/aotearoa-futurism-part-one