kanye west graduation

ARGH @ packaging. Okay, yes, the cartoons are cute, but this is going to be scratched all to hell in no time.

its weird that no one can agree on album standouts

fwiw i like all of the songs discussed above except i wonder which its fucking terrible

if genocide had a sound it would sound like i wonder

i hate that it even exists

"I Wonder" is fuckin great.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:25 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

:(

its weird that no one can agree on album standouts

That's generally a good sign.

except its not like "oh theyre all i good but i couldnt possibly choose which one i love the most!" its like "these ones are great and those ones suck"

kanye has a better voice for rapping than p diddy!

you know i hate "i wonder" but i think "everything i am" sucks even worse

except its not like "oh theyre all i good but i couldnt possibly choose which one i love the most!" its like "these ones are great and those ones suck"

I realize that. The point still stands.

lol @ the good life video ripping off the cartoony letters from the d.a.n.c.e. video

everything i am sounds like a mediocre college dropout song.

'divisive'

t/s ys vs. graduation

ys?

LOCK THREAD.

Oh, I'm slow. I thought ys was an abbreviation for something. I have no interest in hearing Ys. That was not an endorsement.

ys >>>>>>> graduation, i realize that ethan will call me gay, but its true

i realize that ethaneveryone will call me gay, but its true

http://www.falcom.com/licence/character/image/ys_logo.jpg

deadanimalhat.jpg

i also thought ys was an abbreviation but 4 fear of a clowning i didn't ask
can't enjoy ys sober, personally.

i'm often pleased by deadanimalhat.jpeg

i wonder how much he paid Takashi Murakami for the sleeve? he doesn't come cheap.

ha ha

Oh well.

Kanye's album outsells 50 Cent's by 200,000 on day one
September 12, 2007 04:59pm

50 Cent said he'd hang up his mic if Kanye West's new album outsold his. He might have spoken too soon.

Critics are raving about West's Graduation - and its already sold 200,000 more units than Fiddy's Curtis since yesterday's same-day release in the US.

The hip-hop egomaniacs were pitted against each other when, last month, Fiddy said on <i>sohh.com: </i>

"If Kanye West sells more records than 50 Cent on September 11, I'll no longer (perform) music. I'll write music and work with my other artists but I won't put out any more solo albums."

Associated Press said on the strength of the albums, West could claim a "landslide victory."

"... Graduation still sound like a logical step forward. Yet Curtis sounds like Fiddy is standing in place ... Fiddy's outsized cockiness sounds like a comfortable artist repeating himself, afraid to tinker with his winning formulas."

Ryan Dombal, from Pitchfork, gave Fiddy just 4.9 stars out of 10.

"in direct opposition to Kanye's fearless, risk-taking, Graduation, 50's new album is a blatant rehash - a bottom-line sequel that insults the same audience it mildlessly panders to."

Respected sie HiphopDX said: "50 cent may be a superstar, but Curtis is pedestrian."

But critics heaped praise on West's Graduation.

Rolling Stone gave the album 4.5 stars out of five, saying: "This is an album that you first like, then love."

HiphopDX echoed the sentiment.

"Kanye has created another must-have album that will continuously bump on your CD players and mp3's for months to come."

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22406293-10388,00.html

sweet jesus the ass on the girl in the good life vid

lol @ the good life video ripping off the cartoony letters from the d.a.n.c.e. video

-- Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 03:41 (9 hours ago) Link

is it still 'ripping off' if it's the same director?

rtc OTM re: ass

idve preferred a more logical boob tho, wtf

haha has it really been 39 minutes

this pretty enjoyable for a victory lap album

It helps that the victory laps are a lot shorter this time.

Yeah, this still has some fat on it, but I really didn't need another excessive Kanye-athon.

I thought Late Registration was the more-enjoyable-than-it-had-a-right-to-be victory lap album. This one, I think, is too short. I'm tired of all these big deal rap albums that are 13 songs, 4-5 of which were advance singles/leaks. Graduation has the same amount of filler/bad idea tracks as the last album, just fewer solid songs and obvious highlights to balance it out.

I admire how Kanye's become like Madonna: he collaborate with a hot producer, then discards him after he's learned all his tricks. "Everything I Am," "Homecoming," and "Good Life" are so much denser than anything on LR.

I don't get how people sit through 80-min monstrosities, esp. ones by people whose obnoxious tendencies become exacerbated as they outstay their welcome. (That said, I love The College Dropout even as I would like to take an ax to portions of it. Late Registration doesn't have enough good material to build a 40-minute album, let alone a disc-filler.

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I don't get how people get so intimidated by the thought of paying for 80 minutes of music when they can so easily pick and choose the songs they like or break it up into multiple listening sessions. I'm just saying, I think fewer songs more often than not merely gives the impression of higher quality control, and I'd rather get my money's worth and get a bunch of new songs and make up my mind about which ones I like than pay all that money for maybe 8 songs I haven't heard on the radio already.

^^^OTM

even when albums are 10 tracks long i rarely have the time to sit and listen to the whole album front to back. If I do, I've probably also got time to listen to another five tracks

I suppose I should just start a thread for the Great Rap Album Length Debate already since I seem to have this argument a couple times a year, but I really hate this shrinking album trend. Hey Swizz Beatz, you made 80 billion songs this year, but when I pay cash money for your album, all you've got are 10 songs, a remix, and a voicemail from Snoop Dogg? Fuck you!

but WHAT A VOICEMAIL!

I dunno, I still hold on to notions that albums should be listened to front to back in one sitting, and the idea of correlating value to amount of music is just entirely foreign to me for whatever reasons. I never really want to listen to any one person for more than an hour at a time or so. I find myself never even listening to long albums more than once or twice a lot of times, even when I like a certain number of songs on them.

I guess I find long albums intimidating.

Honestly, Reverend, I feel pretty much the same way. I tend to listen to albums in one sitting and do get impatient with longer ones. With rock and underground rap, I generally prefer shorter albums. I just feel differently with mainstream rap/pop records where half the songs are put out for media saturation beforehand and there's a lot less to discover or hear with fresh ears on the album itself.

'd rather get my money's worth and get a bunch of new songs and make up my mind about which ones I like than pay all that money for maybe 8 songs I haven't heard on the radio already.

Capitalist!

Seriously, if I had to pick and choose from 80 minutes worth of music, chances are that it's not a good album! You don't discard tracks from good albums.

Yeah, I can understand that, but I've gotten a bit lazy about searching stuff out early, like in this case I'd only heard "Stronger" and "Can't Tell Me Nothing" beforehand. (xp)

the thread al wants to start is less about "album length" and more about what an "album" is, i think--because isn't it going to come down to ppl who hold the view that albums are in their entirety statements or works of art that should be listened to from front to back vs. ppl who hold the view that buying an album is like buying 12-18 songs and sequencing is a secondary concern if one at all

I should say that for me, 8 songs I haven't heard already is more or less ideal.

max otm

i mean obv those are extreme positions and most of us probably fall in the middle somewhere but that seems to be the sense i get