didnt someone already do some kind of statistical analysis that suggested that homophobia tied more closely to level of religion than race in any meaningful way
i mean i know you cant tell who was raised christian by looking at a twitpic the way you can tell if a twitterer is black butalso black ppl are on twitter to a larger degree than white ppl iircand hip hop regardless of race tends to attract ppl into a hypermasculine mode of thinkingand of course homophobic white ppl seem to have a tendency to make it about their oppression, i.e. the pc police dont let me say x any more, rather than saying things outright
i dunno there are lots of things w/ jon's post that seem off to me, in addition to what djp already listed
― timbo slice (D-40), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
to be honest jon i think what went thru a lot of ppl's heads when you brought it up that way was, 'wtf didnt we already do this' because back when prop whatever it was in cali passed this exact same discussion shot around every message board & blog discussion remotely related to politics, so bringing it up again wasnt just wrong on its face, but old news too
― timbo slice (D-40), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
also when i did a #mrcee search i wasn't bombarded w/ an onslaught of homophobia, and it wasn't virulent homophobia either that you see from, for instance, religious white ppl -- i even saw a few people too that said "the point is not that it was a dude"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
― timbo slice (D-40), Thursday, April 7, 2011 9:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
this was mainly my issue
basically american culture is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent
― timbo slice (D-40), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw it's not like running a Mr. Cee search on any website is going to bring up NICE remarks right now -- only mean/derisive ones with the occasional defense. it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people, he got busted for something that's at least mildly embarrassing regardless of your feelings on homosexuality.
― ℯℳℴ ❤\(◕~◕✿ (some dude), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
should've read "it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people are attacking him for it"
― ℯℳℴ ❤\(◕~◕✿ (some dude), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
basically american culture everyone is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent
― scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Deap Dick Collective out of Oakland,CA
...and they rock...
― S, Friday, November 1, 2002 10:56 AM (8 years ago)
they were awesome
― sarahel, Friday, 8 April 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
p sure that if jeff gordon* (WHITE PEOPLE) got busted getting blowed by a dude the "twitterscape" (<---suicidable word right there) would be just as bleak.
*is he even a thing anymore? not really up on this
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link
gbx otm
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
gbx, gordon is still competitive, but the dude at work that's into it says he's maybe slipped a bit and i guess some NASCAR rule changes in recent years about how they keep score weren't favorable to gordon
well
you know
i kinda regret even posting anything at all
so sorry
i was just bummed out for mr. cee
this must be kinda difficult to go through with
twitter and every thing now
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel slightly bad for mr. cee, will feel differently depending on how he handles this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
boggling at the idea of "rules"
i mean obv there are rules, but like is there inside nascar nerdery going on where ppl are thinking "well gordon's a classic driver, he stays near the front and attacks late in the game when he sees an advantage. unfortunately, he's not great in the heat, and when it's 90+degrees outside hooboy he'll just slide to the back like a dew drop down a corn husk"
for real: "scoring?" wtf is up w/nascar
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
they tried to make it more like a 'normal' sport in an effort to attract more fans
i.e. they instituted a playoff-esque format
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i guess it's basically like you get points for a season, based on how you place in races....i think now they've skewed it so you get a lot more points for winning races as opposed to, say, placing 5th or something...so my impression was gordon was more of a steady-eddie type that would consistently place in the top 10 of races but not necessarily win a lot of races like jimmy johnson, so he was "penalized" by how they changed the scoring...
then obv the chase for the cup, which is kinda like the "playoffs" jordan is talking about....
i dunno, a couple people at work are really into it and so they tell me about it and i guess lots of hardcore nascar fans feel like nascar "sold out" or something
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
the biggest female rapper in like 10 years is openly bisexual
ok, who?
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link
nicki
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
haw
basically nascar sounds like european football. which is kind of good, now that i think about it.
oh also european football is just gay as hell
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
actually nascar sounds like pro tour cycling
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i wouldn't doubt if it's pretty similar to any racing type league
basically, i've learned that serious nascar fans are total nerds about all the minutia of the sport
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
homophobia is way more tied to class (or er...education?) than race surely (or at least...homophobia expressed in certain ways)
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link
religion
― timbo slice (D-40), Friday, 8 April 2011 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link
jeff gordon has been blowing for several years now fwiw
― omar little, Friday, 8 April 2011 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Homosexuality and Basketball: The Gay Raptors Thread
― scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
lol does nicki minaj really qualify as bisexual in any serious discussion on the matter
― fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
gettin a blowy from a dude doesn't make you gay imo
― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^And it's this dumbass/homophobic mentality is why I don't have that many straight friends.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
If two men are engaged in a sexual act no matter the position, it is gay as hell.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
The act is gay, the dudes may not be.
― jaymc, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't rate the player rate the gayme.
― did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
what does it make you?
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"classic snoball!" -nobody
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxpost to jaymc comment
Yeah that type of the mentality make so called "straight" people use their privilege to engage in homosexual acts but then deny that they are somewhat attractive to the same gender. Why engage in something like that if you are not remotely attractive to that same person? Once again, "straight" men are just strange.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
gettin a blowy from a dude doesn't make you gay imo― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 8, 2011 1:39 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink^^^^And it's this dumbass/homophobic mentality is why I don't have that many straight friends.― lilsoulbrother, Friday, April 8, 2011 2:10 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 8, 2011 1:39 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, April 8, 2011 2:10 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the fact that i think its everyone's right to chose their own sexual orientation is homophobic?
― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
if only there was some word we could use for people who are attracted to both men and women!
― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
You can do whatever the hell you want behind closed doors. The thing that annoys me is those people who engage in acts and publicly decry those acts to fit into the mainstream society.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Did Mister Cee actually say anything on the matter though?
― billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i just read these three tweets re: biggie and homosexuality:
http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474575089221632http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474832774672384http://twitter.com/dreamhampton313/status/55474981022343168
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
is it possible that mr cee didn't know that it was a dude
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
What else could we say?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__qG3uGNAsas/Sd3RBLunryI/AAAAAAAAA5k/tpBahjVZYvE/s320/flea%2Band%2Bkurt%2Bcobain_855_18805409_0_0_15358_300.jpg
― scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
There's nothing gayer than not being gay.
maybe I'm just unaware of the significant number of women lurking in men's bathrooms but that just seems unlikely
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP B.I.G
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, April 8, 2011 2:22 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah it seems unlikely to me but idk -- was a bathroom involved?
I thought that was the whole story? He was busted in a public restroom getting head from a guy?
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:20 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^OMG!!! What??? Really???
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
You can be attracted to people of the same sex and engage in same-sex acts, but I don't think that makes you gay unless it constitutes the full extent of your sexual preferences.
(Some of us don't consider ourselves straight OR gay.)
― jaymc, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
― fauxmarc, Friday, April 8, 2011 1:32 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
not necessarily (although she gave an interview to Out Magazine fwiw), i was just pointing out that she's a bigger current star with more overt bisexual lyrics/image than Missy after Missy was brought up
― some dude, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
oh it was a car, lol
basically all of the George Michael stories make me assume ppl are always getting busted in bathrooms
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link