is mac miller signed?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TFS8r_SMI
and the song sucks too!
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
sam adams 'i hate college remix' has 5 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
this guy is really way worse than asher roth
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
for scale, the 'yonkers' video was tweeted by kanye west and still doesnt have 3 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
and sam adams afaik hasnt been on national television either
tbph i find his flow on "donald trump" generic enough to be inoffensive, and the beat's not bad; i could see something like this, but with an actual hook of some sort, being a hit
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
(nb I said flow not lyrics — if i tried to pay attention to the latter i would get rolling-induced eyestrain before he stops to take a breath)
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
mike posner has hits, i wouldn't be surprised if this other stuff became popular
i don't find it very interesting tho bcuz it pretty much exists in its own universe
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
take over the world, watch ilm get mad
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
sam adams has been around for a while -- i'd seen his name before
idk what else to say about this stuff
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
it sucks
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ime frats used to like popular rap. ludacris. 'big pimpin.' but frat dudes dont care about, like, black eyed peas and flo rida now
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:19 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
btw i think it's wrongheaded to say that frat guys aren't into popular rap anymore -- these types of dudes are into drake, kanye, wiz and cudi especially
lupe is gonna sell 250k albums this week, i think males 18-25 are prob a large part of his fanbase
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
wiz is a big point of crossover tho
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't see any evidence that these guys are popular at all, let alone moreso than OF
― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:15 PM (42 minutes ago)
i go to school in new england and everyone knows who sam adams is, unfortunately
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:33 PM (27 minutes ago)
this seems to be otm
xp that's just regional tho -- someone in cali would say the same thing about jerking
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway these types of dudes have popularity, yes -- how much popularity i have no idea
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i heard about sam adams via this (black) aspiring rapper dude who is in a frat that would sometimes link to his shit on facebook (this was before i hid him from my news feed)
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:01 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://grab.by/9rn0
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i think i just turned old
― the Hogg who would be Boss (will), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
We opened for lupe at a small white liberal arts college last year. 2000 ppl or so. Jordan is correct in his assessment of lupe's audience
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The reason why wale's album bricked is cuz he and his label tried to connect with that market but I don't think he's fratty enough
His restarted career with maybach music seems to make more sense to me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
j0rdan i know lupe & those guys are big w/ frat audiences too.
i think this is a break w/ that though ... these are artists who are frat-popular w/out being otherwise popular
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
this shit is appalling, want to declare 100% allegiance w/goon crew on this, but "more popular than odd future" = because of YouTube views? not sure that's really a reliable gauge of popularity, tyler's on national tv, these guys are Popular On The Internet
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
lol IOW co-sign w/deej's last post. frat types are into all kinds of lame shit that normal ppl are repulsed by
i know thats not proof but there is no proof of anything any more -- we're lost in a sea of non-evidence of popularity -- my pt in bringing up youtube views is to show that just because we hear a lot about odd future in our social world doesnt mean there isnt another world out there that is paying attention to different stuff
i think the odd future focus of our blogosphere lately has been a bit myopic
& jordan's dismissive "well thats just like regional rap else where" thing ... so?? do those ppl deserve less weight than us because some of us happen to have blogs or write for publications?
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
another world out there that is paying attention to different stuff
this has been the case throughout history though - as long as I've been listening to music I've been occasionally running across stuff where I go "really? people like that?" and then it turns out there's a whole huge demographic that just was off my general radar. yr right w/general observation that one's own focus tends to distort the broader picture but the broader picture has always kind of been more a conceit than an Actually Obtainable Thing
imo
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
but my main point was everybody otm this music is terrible
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess i was teh one to big challenge on that since i claimed these guys are bigger than odd future but allow me to posit it this way then: "it is my theory that this stuff is actually galvanizing a really large group of people with considerably less media attention, a group of people the size of which is underestimated & may in fact exceed the popularity of a group like odd future, possibly"
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i was the one to BEG a challenge
deej otm i know nothing of these frat rappers but i knew some frat boys and i've heard of like phish and widespread panic and the "underground" frat circuit is not to be underestimated.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
these guys get youtube hits sure but would people really buy this stuff
like are people listening to this for reasons beyond the lol irony factor of white dudes rapping
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I can dig that, I mean what I'd say then is lots of popular stuff isn't really that interesting & that's why people who care about rap might have something to say about Odd Future but not about this -- it's just kind of a depressing albeit well-liked among some people thing, you know? I mean this is how I feel about pop & pop crit for the past 5+ years, myself, it's like lots of smart people wanna have something to say about Justin Bieber who I think deserves about exactly as much att'n as this stuff, because the music is garbage. And it always feels forced when mainstream critics are writing about what feels/sounds like a wasteland of crap in the pop world at the moment. You know? so odd future: if you love rap, you can sink your teeth into it, even if you don't like it you'll be able to get some riffs going about it, it feels worth talking. This? all you can really say is "yup...some people think McDonald's is great food to feed to your children, too" - food critics don't write about McDonald's, right
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think anyone's listening to this for irony except for us
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i agree w that post, kurt novoselic of the band nirvana
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I wasn't dismissing Kevin's point about Sam Adams, but the reality is that his popularity is prob skewed in the New England area -- I hear ace hood on the radio a ton here but I don't think it means that he's popular elsewhere
I think they're less deserving of our attention cuz the music sucks
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_psMU63b7I
― «( «_«)» zzzz «(«_« )» (Lamp), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
thing is like - unlike OF, these guys are not being pushed by critics...or rap blogs...or MTV or anything - yet they're still well-known among a certain cohort of ppl. that means something, i'm not sure what
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
sublime is also well known among a certain cohort of ppl, so is O.A.R.
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
idk yes the music is terrible (to my ears) but if they can garner some kind of following in this day of balkanized music taste and make a living off of this, and the music is harmless, more power to them I guess, even if they won't be blowing up on pitchfork anytime soon
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
oh fratrap.tumblr.com is a real thing... huh
― «( «_«)» zzzz «(«_« )» (Lamp), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I mean like I say there's lots of music that's just kicking ass in the marketplace without much critical att'n. Creed, for several years, were selling out arenas & scanning insane numbers and nobody who cared about music had ever heard of them. Devotchka sells & draws like you wouldn't believe. world is huge, lots of populations/demographics that we don't even hear or think about because we do not dig what they're into
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yah idk how much i have to say abt this as it relates to the rap game or w/e but its basically children's music - super simple, focus on repetitious sing-along chorus, void of introspection, v 'functional', its p tedious but understandable as party music.
like idk maybe theres something interesting in the way that college age kidz are making blithe & unthinking party rap music instead of dmb-esque acoustic guitar shit & how 'rap' is basically the dominant pop idiom now, & blah blah blah
― «( «_«)» zzzz «(«_« )» (Lamp), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link
thing is a lot of frats have like a 'rap dude'---some guy in the house that prides himself on a) his knowledge of the genre ('i'm pretty into hip-hop') and b) freestyles when he's drunk, and is actually ok at it.
throw in a frat brother that can 'make beats' (ie copy shit from the 90s) and some lyrics that are written expressly for the enjoyment of frat party attendees and you have an act that can book shows on a frat house circuit
they'll make no money on merch, get paid in beer and weed, but they'll make a ton of casual fans ("oh dude i totally saw these guys at AD when i was a sophomore...it ruled! totally smoked up the DJ") and possibly parlay that into a touring act that plays college towns exclusively.
our v own aerosmith has played on TV (great work btw), but widespread panic has sold out red rocks 35 times (according to wiki) and i'd hazard one of those gigs is more lucrative than the other, both in the short- and long-term
basically: OF on Kimmel and Kanye's twitter ain't shit.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
omg so many truth bombs in that post
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Only tangentially related but: I went to see Chromeo in Oakland recently - I know they're not especially liked on ILM but I love them - and was shocked at the percentage of fratty bros in attendance. IME frat dudes like Sublime, RHCP, popular rap, or around here Bay Area rap, but tongue-in-cheek French-Canadian 80s-style electro R&B? Who knew?
― champagne hippies trying to recapture their youth (Whitey on the Moon), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
OAR is freaky stealth popular. There's a whole scene of dave matthews diaspora stuff that is creepy big. I just saw a live thing of some oar type band that I'd never heard of and never seen mentioned on ilx or by anyone I know. The live footage was from a sold out madison square garden
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
The Arcade Fire aren't THAT bad.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
OAR played my university's spring break festival xp
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i think i like this album, although yes the idea that this is some feminist awakening does not really jive w/ the content
if the Watching Movies one is similar but better, maybe i should check that one out
Ariana's skit on SNL where she did vocal impressions was pretty great, these two seem like maybe they deserve each other
― alpine static, Monday, 17 October 2016 09:32 (seven years ago) link
rip Mac Miller
― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
Probably should have posted this somewhere other than a thread about "Frat Rap". I thought this was a joke at first.
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 September 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link
It's being discussed in the "rolling face tat" thread (...I know)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
lol
― sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
frat rap more like frat crap amirite
― the late great, Friday, 7 September 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
oh whoops i didn't see why the revive ... my bad :(
― the late great, Friday, 7 September 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
― sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
omg chet!
why is Tom Hanks' son Chet Hanks speaking patois? pic.twitter.com/mNh8ih8JhA— Brittny Pierre 🥳♒️ (@sleep2dream) January 6, 2020
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 January 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link
bumbleclot!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link