"Ass On the Floor" has been the best overall song for me. Kalenna has a great atonal, Grace Jones like lead that just personifies the whole pissed off mood of the song. I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.
Also for some odd reason, when Kalenna and Dawn sing in harmony on the refrain:
Baby I want you to need meI need you to want me, I want you to love me forever
with the synths flowing is aural heaven in my earbuds/headphones.
And Diddy was decent only for the smoking weed listening to Sade part.
― Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
or do it like whiney, make the end date like 6 months away bernie
― dayo, Wednesday, January 5, 2011 6:23 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1300022/bernie-o.gif
― endlamoosing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I love the "smoke weed, listen to sade" line cause it's totally on some ~~diddy teaches you how to live~~
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
the synth swell as diddy's verse ends is some epic shit
― dayo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i shoulda done a No Way Out poll first as a sorbet
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Thursday, 6 January 2011 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.
That snare is from Pon De Floor by Major Lazer, and just made me want to listen to Pon De Floor frankly. The rest of the song just kind of sits damply on top of that snare, no song called Ass On The Floor should be this limp.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link
matt, i got your text yesterday about this album sounding limp just as i was falling asleep, and frankly i thought i was imagining it. this album limp?!?!
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I've posted in a bit more detail on the other thread. It is limp though.
Keeping it positive on this thread, it's either I Hate That You Love Me or Strobe Lights for me.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link
"Pon de Floor" sucks and "Ass on the Floor" is great tho.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually they're both great.
If you hate "Pon De Floor" your taste is music is so far removed from mine that if we were ever in the same room it would explode.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
The beat is great but the synths really fucking annoy me.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe you need to have gooned over toytown hardcore from the rave scene circa 93-95 before it clicks
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
if Swizz Beatz actually sampled a drum sound originated by Diplo (if that's possible!) then barf
― Johnny Cheever (some dude), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
that can't be true
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno that it's an actual sample, but it definitely uses the same (distinctive) cadence.
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
They might just use the same source sample, but in the UK Pon De Floor has impacted way, way wider than pretty much everything else Diplo has done. It may be Diplo but it's not just a hipster touchstone, and Diddy knows his club music and I'd be very surprised if he hadn't heard Pon De Floor.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
poor Switch, it's like he doesn't even exist
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Switch is the more talented one!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
major lazer = diplo and switch, right? switch's presence prob more key than diplo's to its quality
haha xps!!!
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but all of the talk about "Pon De Floor" has automatically reverted to talk about Diplo when both of them were involved in the Major Lazer stuff (altho if there's a breakdown somewhere about who specifically produced what and Diplo was the one responsible for "Pon De Floor", fair enough; I assumed Switch had a hand in it do to rhythmic pulse similarities to the bassline in "Bamboo Banger")
xp: lol it's that part of the thread where everyone posts the same idea at the same time
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
it was THE anthem of the recent student protests in london, fwiw. teenagers dutty wining in parliament square to "pon de floor" and gyptian/nicki minaj = such a moment.
also dan you've heard the princess nyah remix of "pon de floor" right?
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4EFFDCbNw
Yeah Pon De Floor seems to now occupy that Witness: One Hope slot of songs that were never really hits but now everyone seems to love.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah Lex, I caught that on another thread
so so hot
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
All the important bits of "Pon De Floor" are by Afrojack actually. Major Lazer just dressed it up a bit (e.g. adding Vybz).
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
That's one reason why it feels like such an important record, it short-circuits mainstream clubbing and frankendance so efficiently.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Linn LM-1 drums! Is this song featured on the deluxe edition? If ever there was an album that needs a mixtape of unreleased tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnoYWsZkISA
― RU/SH (Spinspin Sugah), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
On that note:
http://www.badboyblog.com/item/2010/12/13/diddy-hints-at-uncut-freeze-your-face-version-of-dirty-money-s-last-train-to-paris-more-tracks
"We got this version of the album that's called 'uncut,' he said. "This thing is like the freeze your face of the album. We had to put some cut on it, to be honest, just in this day and age. But, we feel it was the right type of balance. We did 60 tracks..."
― Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link
would pay for that just on principle
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i love the 81-minute deluxe version so much that i'm kind of salivating at the idea of some kind of insane souped up 3-hour version
― some dude, Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link
really want that to actually emerge
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:48 (thirteen years ago) link
It probably won't but I'm anticipating a bunch of leaks.
― Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 8 January 2011 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link
jesus, way way way too soon
^^
haven't had a chance to hear this yet ;_;
― ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Sunday, 9 January 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:36 AM (Yesterday)
^^^^^
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm kinda sad that I only got the standard version now.
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah dude deluxe is essential
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll just d/l the extras
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
it's just "last night pt 2" and "change" but they're both excellent songs (i know i'm in the minority on "change") and work really well with the flow of the album, the latter especially
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
everytime I see "Last Night Part 2" i keep thinking Diddy made a sequel to the Az Yet song
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
if you d/l the extras you should change the track order too
― dayo, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
so how is the deluxe 17 extra minutes if there's only two extra tracks adding up to 7 minutes? methinks wikipedia track length=wrooooooooooooooong
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i think wikipedia has adding issues
"loving you no more" is the final track on the standard edition? seriously pity anyone who has that but not the real deal deluxe
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Sunday, January 9, 2011 9:58 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
there are 2 tracks added to the main sequence, plus 2 more bonus tracks ("First Place Loser" and "Love Come Down")
― some dude, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
btw what do you guys think the worst track is? for me it's either "Looking For Love" or "Strobe Lights"
i've been trying to bait people into having this discussion for a min now actually
for me it's any of the 3 songs with wayne or drake, though "strobe lights" is redeemed by its final minute, which i love. "your love" does nothing for me, either
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i always think i'm not into "Your Love" when it starts and by the end i'm like holy shit this is amazing
― some dude, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
imo "Loving You No More" is so good that not even Drake can ruin it
― some dude, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
"your love" improves as it goes on and is not awful strictly speaking but i really hate that beat, got to be the weakest on the album
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
"your love" is really strong imo, i love the tension of the beat - reminds me of omarion's "i get it in" and the dirty money girls slay on it.
IMMA PUT IT IN YOUR FACE BOY AS SOON AS YOU WAKE UPI KNOW YOU WANNA HIT IT, WANT ME TO BE YOUR LITTLE SLUT
worst track is "yesterday" fairly easily. i have the standard edition track listing and the bonus trax as free-floating mp3s and am happy with that, the album isn't actually out in the UK yet.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Sunday, 9 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
correct
― k3vin k., Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
listening to this so it's officially winter now
― devvvine, Friday, 16 November 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link
brad, is there anywhere i can still read that piece upthread?
― devvvine, Friday, 16 November 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link
it’s a little annoying how great chris brown is on this record
― k3vin k., Friday, 19 April 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link
SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
been away from this album probably 8-9 years, but I still like it just as much today
i don't get why they reversed the track order on the deluxe, "Yeah Yeah You Would" makes much more sense as the opener, so I reset it that way on my player. "Ass on the Floor" is perfectly placed as the third.
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
still in my top 5 of the decade, for me rn the easy pick for #1 is “hate that you love me” crazy it placed so low
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
there are actually three different tracklists of this (original, cd deluxe, digital deluxe) and i have no idea why, maybe we should poll them lol
― ufo, Saturday, 21 September 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link
this is the greatest album of all time
― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 September 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
i rly hope diddy does an album like this soon w/ ppl like ty dolla, swae lee etc
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 September 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
I can’t believe it’s been 10 years.... The album that broke my heart #LastTrainToParis 💔— Diddy (@Diddy) December 14, 2020
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
this could have been the sound of the 10s instead we got “hyperpop”
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
Imagine if this would have been the launchpad for most of pop in the last decade.... sigh.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
I owe ILM big time for pushing me toward this album.
Why did it break his heart?
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
I was wondering the same thing, actually. My assumption was that it was because Dirty Money split up before they got to do more?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link
Because he spent three years on it and it's his lowest-selling album (~300,000 copies)?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
he also might just be alluding to the general theme of the album....
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 December 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link
its crazy how many people i see talking about it today...if you look at the pazz n jop voters for it its literally the ilm all stars
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
I was assuming he meant like unperson said he thought it was his best work and it didn't do well
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link
My general opinion of Sean Combs was such that I was legit shocked + floored when I finally heard this album. Still sounds so great.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
the one before it suggests its heading in this direction tbh. i actually expected at the time "press play" to sound more like what ended up being "LTTP" just because he was already listening to all the music that influenced LTTP but he hadn't quite adapted it to his A&R skillset yet i guess ... still "Press Play" has some crazy shit on it. The Keyshia Cole song in particular
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
"Press Play" also has Mario Winans-guested "Through the Pain" which kinda felt like it coulda fit on LTTP.
love that jam.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (one year ago)
still feel like this would really hit...
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link
Press Play was one of my fave albums of the late 00s. Never quite warmed to LTTP for some reason.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/diddy-dirty-money-last-train-to-paris/
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 July 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkL8PSk-08new diddy… bryson tiller wouldn’t have been my choice for vocalist but i pretty much love this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 June 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
this bangs
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
yes
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
Love this!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link
Gonna need a whole album
― Spottie, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:32 (one year ago) link
he signed a one album deal w/ motown so hopefully we’ll get one this year
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link
lol I know I am a Pop Idiot but how is this album this good and how am I only discovering it now
― imago, Saturday, 20 August 2022 09:56 (one year ago) link
widescreen ambitious brilliance from start to finish