Rolling sad emo boys (and girls {but not Jessica Hopper}) thread 2007

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Classic Emo Mashup: Legion of Doom - The Quiet Screaming (Dashboard Confessional V. Brand New) I recently got a copy of the new Legion album, "Incorporated." Is this actually new? I know the mashup is at least a couple years old.

Mordechai Shinefield, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cultcargo.net/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=246

JW, Monday, 16 April 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. Listening to "The Bird and The Worm". Pretty damn great. And yeah, Yellowcard suck.

The Reverend, Monday, 16 April 2007 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The percussion is awesome.

The Reverend, Monday, 16 April 2007 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, "Cupid's Chokehold" is getting played on Channel U.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 16 April 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Was the chorus and the verse for "Cupid's Chokehold" written completely separate from each other? They seem taken from different songs completely.

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Were the*, obv.

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

mordechai shinefield old friend prepare to have your mind blown

A B C, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHbPD_bXaOA

A B C, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Woah. My mind is officially blown. I had no idea. And that makes a ton of sense.

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, actually. The chorus is taken from Supertramp's "Breakfast In America."

Read your VV Good Charlotte review. Pretty spot on, although I hadn't thought of the "stays in her place" line like that at all. I took it more literally to mean "she never leaves her place of residency".

(xposts)

The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Punch: beaten to.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank god you put Jessica Hopper's name in the thread, otherwise I'd never know what to search for when trying to bump this back to the top. Anyway: Since I doubt very many people will read this, I'm posting it here. The truth is, I really like Coheed and Cambria. But I do have to admit, they're lyrically all over the place, and completely over the top. So the piece may have come off as more mean than I would've liked, but I do believe that they should reign it in a bit.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 27 April 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Bumped. Plz more people come to this thread. Thx.

Also: To justify thread bump:
Anyone heard the new Fall of Troy album? Is it the awesome? (I'm going to listen to it either later tonight or sometime tomorrow). Btw: The album cover doesn't look emo at all. It looks like Saddle Creek prog-emo. Boo.

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Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 30 April 2007 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to school with them, but for some reason have never heard their music.

The Reverend, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I should remedy that.

The Reverend, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Opinions on Timbaland/Fall Out Boy track on Shock Value? I LOVE it, and I don't love either artist individually.

Finefinemusic, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the part at the beginning with Timbo singing the obviously Stump-penned melody, but the rest....

The Reverend, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It sounds sort of like he's making up new lyrics to "Dance, Dance" as he goes along. I don't really care for it. Also can we talk about the Cute is What We Aim For single and especially video, HOLY SHIT WHAT A PILE...or am I wrong?

A B C, Monday, 7 May 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard about the backlash, but I haven't head the single yet - I'll try to listen to it tonight.

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 May 2007 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

First impression: Emo songs about the brilliance of emo lyrics generally fall flat for me (with the notable exceptions of Cursive's Ugly Organ and Brand New's "Okay, I Believe You But My Tommy Gun Doesn't). And unlike both those examples, there's nothing within "The Curse of Curves" that justifies the boasting. Not to mention that music video - the blond bangs look is really aesthetically unappealing. Not to mention the blatant sexism - the silenced women in the video, the shot where the musician reclines on the bed while the woman crawls toward him, the fact that he's the brains and she's the beauty (he's got words, she only has curves).

Now, none of these things would necessarily keep me from enjoying the song (I listen to a lot of music with greater problems that those) but the song is so bland, and completely indistinguishable from most mainstream emo that it makes Fallout Boy look subtle. Which, using an analogy, is to say that "Curse of the Curves" is to emo in 2007 like Chevelle (or better, Nonpoint) were to nu-metal in 2000.

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 May 2007 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

If Gym Class Heroes were called something like Panoptix or The Truth Movement, and were signed to the reformed Rawkus, they'd be getting the same kind of whiteboy critic dick-sucking that yr Panaceas and Kids In Da Halls are getting. As it is, they just have to make do with, you know, actually selling records.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 7 May 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, truth. I'm actually kinda starting to like "Cupid's Chokehold". Maybe it's just cause I'm listening to Top 40 radio lately.

The Reverend, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

If anyone's willing, and I don't know if Bright Eyes is still considered emo, but Haligh, Haligh, A Lie, Haligh is sort of like the Bohemian Rhapsody of alt-country-emo.. it's lovely.

Finefinemusic, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Gym Class Heroes. I think they're great - and far better than that last emo-rapper (Atmosphere).

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 May 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone like Brand New? I don't listen to emo much other than the occasional MCRCharlotteGymClassFallOutBoyPanic! singles but I quite like Brand New.

Roz, Monday, 7 May 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bumped. Plz more people come to this thread. Thx."

i don't know if you actually want this to happen. emo threads just hijacked and pissed upon around here. is that yr wish?

i, fer one, am quite anti-emo. even tho some of my favorite bands (to some degree) paved the way for emo (Smashing Pumpkins, i'm lookin squarely @ you!!!).

i have no need of white boy angst anymore.
i'm sure someone does...

edde, Monday, 7 May 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"anti-emo" Good Samaritans = Classic!

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

And Roz, I loved Deja Entendu. I thought I loved The God and Devil, but on reflection, it hasn't had the same impact on me that Deja Entendu did.

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 May 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I've noticed them since really early on, just when emo was about to really break out... in '02 or something, back when the term still referred to Jimmy Eat World and Bright Eyes. In high school, I thought "Jude Law and a Semester Abroad" was the best song title ever. Which it still kinda is, really!

I still wouldn't call myself a big fan though - I've never heard their first record. I really, really love about half of Deja Entendu and could do without the rest, and it's the same with The God and Devil are Raging....". My problems with them are the same as my problems with the rest of the emo crowd - the more screamy bits with no discernable tune really annoy me. but I think musically, they stand out quite a bit from the rest - I'm thinking mostly of things like the really pretty guitar on "Jesus", the more epic tracks like "Limousine". And the huge-ass chorus on "Good to Know if I ever...".

Roz, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

*discernible

Roz, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm getting pretty emo friendly but i would be really happy to never hear cupid's chokehold ever again. the video is cute tho

A B C, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey is Cobra Starship any good, I liked the Snakes on a Plane song and now I find out that they are more than just a one off collaboration of emo superstars??

A B C, Monday, 21 May 2007 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

My The Used review went up.

Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bert McCracken"? Seriously? That is either the best or worst name a rocker's ever had.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i am obsessing over brand new god & the devil right now and have been for about two weeks — really hope it lasts. i saw them a week ago and their audience was 100% frat-types, and i got extremely sad.

more pop than emo, but the record from paramore thats coming out on atlantic could be my record of the summer. nothing but sugar. which i mean as a deep compliment.

like about 1/2 of the used, maybe? i love that it is a fuck-you to gerard way, and that pop music can now apparently sustain an album-length fuck-you to gerard way. i love that such a thing has been entered into the pop canon. "liar liar" has bad lyrics, but is a great song.

smash your phonograph in half, Thursday, 31 May 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Fall Out Boy is the ONLY full-length I've bought so far this year, and I've yet to tire of it. I even bought the Kanye remix of "This Ain't A Scene" (Kanye steals the show on that one).

I chickened out of going to see them because it would've meant:

a) sitting through Cobra Starship & Gym Class Heroes,

&

b) quite possibly being the oldest person in the crowd, which would just bring back unpleasant memories of the Millencolin show I attended in '04.
(Awesome set, but JEEZ, I felt like a "hip" high school English teacher.)

Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link

aren't they pretty bad live anyway, i seem to recall the couple times i caught them on snl or letterman or whatever they were like exceptionally shitty. eternal respekt for the spinny guitar move though. i could see it being a fun atmosphere/hilarious people watching though (although maybe the novelty of a crowd of 15 year old emos going nuts would only be good in theory/wear off after two songs (plus chester molester factor yeah (but maybe if the tickets were free)))

A B C, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

also are there any my chemical romance bert mccracken dis tracks or is that beneath them? i'm glad to hear they had a falling out (haha any devolution of this post into that retardo gym class heroes song with all the emo namedrops is entirely unintentional) because 1) the used fucking sucks and 2) my god, lamer feud than scott storch/timbaland, a killers/bravery for a new day

A B C, Thursday, 31 May 2007 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

a) From what I've seen of FOB on Youtube, they are WILDLY inconsistent live - Patrick Stump's voice can get really shakey (stagefright maybe?), and the guys insist on running around, jumping off the drum riser, etc, etc. Fun to watch, but of a bit of a dog's breakfast to listen to. When they stand relatively still and actually PLAY them damn songs, they're not half-bad.

b) I wasn't aware of any feud with the My Chems! (Also: I've really liked what I've heard of The Black Parade...)

Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

them damn songs

THE damn songs, etc...

Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 31 May 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

of the new fall of troy i am not so fond :(

nervous, Thursday, 7 June 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"Clothes Off!" > "Breakfast in America" >>>>>>> "Cupid's Chokehold" >>>>>>> "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off", amirite?

The Reverend, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

You're missing one. "Friend Request" PWNs all of them.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I would assume that's Gym Class Heroes?

The Reverend, Friday, 8 June 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Mhmmm.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 8 June 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to go on an emo catchup binge. But I am listening to lots of awesome ironic rock-star rap right now, so emo will probably have to wait for the weekend.

The Reverend, Friday, 8 June 2007 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

when it came out (and to this day) im utterly in love with coheed & cambria's "the suffering" -- and have decided today is the day im ripping my brothers coheed collection and seeing how it all stands up. ill report back

nervous, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

it wasnt that great

nervous, Saturday, 16 June 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Metacritic seems to like Say Anything. What should I seek?

I'm even more backwards than normal, so I have no idea what is going on.

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 November 2007 11:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I just finally heard the last Say Anything album, kinda avoided it until now. Better than I thought. A little ridiculous at times, but I didn't hate it. I'm going to try to listen to the new one soon, its been getting surprisingly good reviews.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Sunday, 11 November 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd give the new Streetlight Manifesto a try. It comes out next week (I'm reviewing it). It's really Ska, but it's got a lot of emo sensibilities, a lot of lyrics that fit the genre conventions. And I get the feeling Tom (the singer) is much more connected to the emo scene than other ska bands. (Other Ska bands? Gasp. Yes, they exist.)

Mordechai Shinefield, Sunday, 11 November 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I discovered them on Gossip Girl this week, but So They Say aren't bad. Worth checking out (though they've got that cluttered myspace page indicative of an emo band).

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 12 November 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't be worse than M.I.A.'s.

The Reverend, Monday, 12 November 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Rewatched Brand New's Sic Transit Gloria video tonight; had the odd experience of finding it more brilliant and more insipid than when I had first seen it. Also watched the Trick Turner video "Friends and Family" and thought about how great it was that emo has supplanted nu-metal as the genre of choice for angsty teenagers (and me).

Of note: Scanned a friend's teenager sister's iPod this weekend and found Les Miz + Rent next to MCR + Fallout Boy.

Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 26 November 2007 08:44 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

mordechai: re your final sentence: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~thepress/read.php?id=1188

nervous, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

somewhat crappily written, but just wanted to let you know someone else is having the same thought

nervous, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

http://htomc.dns2go.com/anim/anim/welcome.gif

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

hm

nervous, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Is the Metro Station album any good? "Shake It" might be my favourite hit of the summer.

Sundar, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm actually not totally sure what makes it emo, except for the one guy's voice and their haircuts.

Sundar, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 04:42 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Don't feel like starting a 2009 thread for this. Anyway, Attack! Attack! are like a Fall Out Boy b-sides band. Thought you guys might be interested. Punknews.org is streaming three of their songs today.

http://www.punknews.org/bands/attackattack

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone heard the new Rise Against? I really like The Sufferer and the Witness.

Sundar, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

i checked out the Two Tongues album that came out yesterday, and it's pretty good! considering that I love Say Anything and hate Saves The Day, I thought I'd be really hot and cold on this, but it all hangs together well even when the whiny STD (heh) guy is singing.

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, there are some really enjoyable songs on the Two Tongues. I like Crawl. I think whenever Max is given the reigns, the stuff sounds great. The Saves the Day input is horrific, tho, imho.

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, guess it's less new than I thought it was. I suck.

Sundar, Thursday, 5 February 2009 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

It's pretty new AFAIK. I think it just came out last week?

Mordy, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I totally don't suck!

Sundar, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

New Taking Back Sunday album coming out (at least acc. to AMP Magazine). It's called New Again. First single (I think), and they've got a new guitarist - Matthew Fazzi - and... it really doesn't sound anything like them :(

Mordy, Monday, 9 March 2009 12:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Blah. That'll teach me for posting a youtube link without confirming it's the right song first. It's here:

Mordy, Monday, 9 March 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm excited for the new Taking Back Sunday, they always manage a couple of good songs per album. I'm listening to the Two Tongues again right now, growing on me with each listen. Bemis' contributions are certainly the better of the two, but I've always had a soft spot for Conley's whine - so this is a pretty good pairing to my ears.

legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

New Say Anything coming out (that first single is awesome IMHO), new Brand New coming out AND new Thrice coming out. It's like 2003 all over again!

Mordy, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Love the new Motion City Soundtrack. I was never really into them before, but something good happened when they signed to a major label. Much hookier.

Mordy, Saturday, 16 January 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Btw, if no one noticed, I use this thread as a Rolling Emo Boys thread, not just for 2007.

Mordy, Saturday, 16 January 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, the new Motion City Soundtrack is pretty damn good! Glad I gave it a chance. I never liked anything I've heard off the previous two albums, but I was a big fan of I Am the Movie. Still nothing as good as "The Future Freaks Me Out", but "Her Words Destroyed My Planet" does a good job trying. Not a big fan of "History Lesson" though, the Flogging Molly touch just does not work.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Just dug out Through Being Cool and Stay What You Are this week for the first time in several years. They were favorites of mine when I was getting over a breakup in 2002, and I'm really surprised at how well they've held up. Before I knew the word "emo", I just called them "whineyboy". I never really got into emo though, other than Thrice/Thursday-ish screamo stuff, which is in a different league altogether, perhaps. I might try to investigate stuff like Say Anything and Motion City Soundtrack this week, just for kicks.

ljagljana (kkvgz), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Also check out the new Gaslight Anthem + Against Me!. Good year for Warped Tour'ish bands.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

the soundguy at a recent show i went to was playing through being cool in between bands. i'm sure it was the delicate balance of nostalgia, booze, and weed, but "you vandal" was about the most perfect thing to my ears at that moment

a rush of blood to my member (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link


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