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― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 6 April 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm trying to make a mix and I find myself looking tracks up in discogs to see how old then are and then snapping out of it: it's a good track. Don't give in to that it's gotta be new consumerist disease!
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
He also played Wighnomy Brothers: Wurz + Blosse twice! wtf?
I dunno what to say really. Michael Mayer DJing = vibe, flow, and shock of the new. Superpitcher = bunch of his favorite tracks.
How long do you usually get in the US?
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
these days he gets booked at smallish glitzy clubs i totally loathe -- cielo, canal room -- so i just stay away. i've seen him play out enough times without having to deal with bitchy bouncers, mandatory coat check, bottle service, vip areas, and all the other attendant bullshit that goes with those types of places. canal room looks like a fuckin' hotel lobby, for chrissakes. white walls and leather couches and palm fronds and everything. and a gin and tonic is like, $10 or $11. i'd way rather see a local dj play in a basement.
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
It was kinda the same in Germany but when I went to London I noticed... an attitude or something. Is it only English-speaking countries that that velvet rope stuff goes on? I hear Richie Hawtin got put in a headlock and thrown out of the club in Miami this year for some reason or another. It's such a shame you can't go out and have a good night in NY without dealing w/ that rubbish.
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― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― i'm from hollywood, Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
I met a guy from NY who complained a bit about this.
What are the names of the underground places you can hear techno and do they have good sound systems?
This weekend we're going to see Mathias Tanzmann at a new club and it's geeky i know but i want to hear whether their system cuts it!
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― hector (hector), Friday, 7 April 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link
most OTM thing evah. i think i spent about $9 on a whiskey sour when i was last there. also yeah, his panoramabar set sounded so much different than his canal room set did, way more..expansive, i guess?
― joseph (joseph), Friday, 7 April 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link
bottle service is when people pay far too much money ($200 or $300, say) for a bottle of alcohol and some fruit juice and access to a roped off vip area. so you can feel special i guess. there are whole bars/clubs that revolve around the bottle service mentality. it's easy enough to stay away, but sometimes it's unavoidable that you run into these ridiculous dweebs at yr club of choice.
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 7 April 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link
my dream is to get eulberg, villalobos and mayer playing here:
http://www.imsy.demon.co.uk/vbt/67%20forgemasters.jpg
sheffield is great for grimy industrial basements and factories...just need $$$$ to get people to play here!
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:45 (eighteen years ago) link
www.eclex.bravehost.com
― E-Clex (E-Clex), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― cheshire, Friday, 7 April 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Good Dog
i mean there are a lot of great old tracks on here, and some good newer ones, but i think the defining hallmark of a big prog house/trance mix these days is that the "new" tracks are at least a year old! i mean who is still putting "the sky was pink," "maps", "la ritournelle" etc on a mix being released on april 25, 2006?
-- geeta
don't look at the tracklist for that Underworld live set :O
and yeah... Donato Dozzy!
trying to I.D. some tunes and he appears to be responsible for more than one of them. Love it! who are these haters?
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 May 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 19 May 2006 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm currently digging sasha's production and mixes (including northern exposure series with digweed) and i think it'll be hard to find stuff more gorgeous than those in the realm of dance music!
― Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr, Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably a silly question but are there rigid distinctions between progressive house and trance? I ask because I was searching for this terrific screed from Simon Reynolds where he blasts trance. But it turned out he was blasting progressive house instead. Then I remembered my favorite progressive house track was Gypsy's "I Trance You" (which some would call trance? maybe...doesn't seem correct, though). Anyhoo, thoughts?
The Simon screed is here. Just scroll down a bit.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
have always thought of Trance as being faster and, well, less progressive...but being from '92 and before the divisions were really established 'I Trance You' is a bit of an anomaly - as 'slow' as most House from the time plus includes breakbeats.
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I think in 92/92 the lines were blurred indeed. You had these great 'Trance' compilations from Rumour records and all the Guerilla records that were probably early progressive house. Then the two genres definitely 'split' and you got the cheesy trance peddled by the likes of Ferry Corsten et al and the overlong, nothing really happens for fourteen minutes progressive house tracks championed by the likes of Sasha & Digweed
That first Sasha & Digweed Renaissance Mix is still ace though
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
if nothing really happens for 14 minutes then it clearly wasn't prog-house
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqvmpuXzSc&feature=player_embedded
I'm getting increasingly curious about the original class of 91-94 progressive house. Mostly because Simon Reynolds declared it anathema, and that hardcore was the one true bolshevik rave option. I want to get my middlebrow on, if anyone will indulge me. Feels like early trance left a lot weird little trends behind when it got mainstream.
That and I'm very very bored with most house right now.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duYIZA7u-ho&feature=player_embedded
Some of this stuff is really weird, ravey breakbeats and all manner of "bad taste" layered with things I actually like.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ffMGwOE7ZeQ
Like these guys, completely unknown to me, I was all of 6 years old in 92.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n--zJCzs9wo&feature=player_embedded
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
In retrospect it's bizarre how much overlap there was between the Warp artist roster and early trance compilations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edS4urkN9Pc&feature=player_embedded#!
Even some of early Juno Reactor sounds more like decent techno than terrible psy.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
I got all of these from a DJ History Forum thread btw, if anyone wants to point me at more it'd be appreciated.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93YoPG1Wt0
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Nha7nRt4&feature=player_embedded
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGbLBTZPRU&feature=player_embedded
The line between "progressive house" and "breakbeat hardcore" was really slippery back then, funny since Simon popularized both labels.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
What this music was initially : acid house with dub basslines, is entirely my thing. What it turned into: Sasha and Digweed crap, is entirely not.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
eh none of this stuff is very good actually, let it rest in the dustbin of history
― the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
well that's not entirely true, i got a soft spot for JBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOo3SvHvlk&feature=related
― the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHH-ex99Xys
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
The West Coast stuff strays too far into hippie Burner territory, and the UK stuff ended up with the late 90s prog hegemony.
Still I've got this feeling there's some stuff worth digging up, if only to satisfy my curiosity.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrumV_CsfXc
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
I like everything that lead up to the Dutch scene, New Beat and Balearic mixed from what I can tell. And then rave hits and everything drops off a cliff.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:04 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rw3ZBRtb7U
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Mmw5cnum4
Its a Derrick May track, with samples! I think I bought this one for 50 cents.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_t7CPXRo6g
This is Mr. Shakir, apparently it got some play at the Loft, so did those Holy Ghost tracks.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RONhfRXGMHM
Man, did rave music ever twist techno into some strange shapes.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICbO7fDIc&feature=related
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwB56gb7dc&feature=related
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5lRlFUHZH4
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihvIUqehaw
I honestly don't know what this is, it's Move D but I'd say its definitely more in line with Mouse on Mar's Vulvaland or early minimal techno.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPANiWSLF9o&feature=related
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKk7VEQv7ec
I'm looking for stuff that is legitimately trance inducing.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4DVJ7emUQ
This is Plaid and Jonah Sharp, Reflective was a really strange label.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h6N10MGqqg&feature=related
I think Mike Banks would beat me up if I compared his music to progressive house.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bOVBQHKk0lU#!
OK, I think my love of the Black Dog is showing through here.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRyf6kKxgy8&feature=related
And I'm going to sleep.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 29 March 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link
Dunno how well it fits here, but early 90s housey trance is my thing, I practically grew up with that shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyKEeT14YVA
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
This was an utter classic back then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YakZl5Y5f2Y
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
As well as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfeEa83nmc
I think a lot of this stuff has aged much better than cheesy UK hardcore from the same era; "Sacred Cycles", for example, still sounds sublime.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
Then there's Air Liquide, of course - my favourite 90s electronic act of them all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmPOw6ZlgY
This shit still sounds majestic!
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
i love this song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8iacryQGt4&ob=av2e
― scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplbC2d-0N4&feature=related
Air Liquide seems to be right up there with PWOG for that weird Euro rave techno feel. Stuff where I'm not sure if its IDM or trance or what exactly.
― pattern loader, Monday, 23 April 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, between 1992 and 1995 AL released stuff ranging from banging acid techno to cosmic trance to weird breakbeat excursions (like the track that sample Cypress Hill) to straight beatless ambient, sometimes on the same record. I'd recommend acquiring pretty much anything they released in that period, it's all good. Or if you want just one record, The Increased Difficulty Of Concentration comp is a good overall look to to their sound; it's neatly divided between a dance and a non-dance disc. In the late 90s they went electro though, IMO their post-'95 material is decent but mostly forgettable.
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 April 2012 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
feeling profound gratitude for what this music is doing for my morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4EfwOUTztI
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
progressive house is so boring. not enough melody to be catchy. not enough rhythm to move. fades immediately to the background. every time i sample a dj's progressive house set i hear danny wolfers saying "wanky white boy music" in my head.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 00:25 (two years ago) link
no it's nice
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
i don’t think that prog house is boring, it’s just that when it’s boring (which is often) it’s boring to a greater degreeit’s easier to listen to a boring techno mix than a boring prog house mix
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link