those two are pleasant, even loveable, but not "worthwhile" imo
― Rage Against the Man-Cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
one of my favorite ILM threads of the last year. Every poster brought their A-game:
POLL if you want to...POLL around the world: The B-52's Cosmic Thing
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't like "Sowing the Seeds of Love" much b/c the video was very stupid iirc & it's a very circular song which ≠ repetitive exactly but still tends to bore me. But the one on here that's the silliest is "Desire": The Joshua Tree was my first ~~~~~adult~~~~~~ album (I take it you know what I mean, I was 13, give me a break) and "Desire" seemed like such a step down at the time, like it wanted to be seedy but even nerdy new-teen me could tell it was borrowed dirt, & plus lyrically it's just a buncha cliches (musically too); also wtf at "red guitar...on fire", absolutely ghastly rhyme there for leading into the chorus. Bonus note: the "Hollywood remix" remains a mess: the beat is less corny (for 1988) but the sorta-Bomb-Squad-y sound gets ruined by the gospel-y vocals, so it doesn't cohere into anything save a bunch of noise (which admitted is better than the original song).
― Euler, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
would rep for lots of The Joshua Tree but obv "Desire" is a fucking warcrime
― Rage Against the Man-Cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I still love side 1 of The Joshua Tree (side 2 is the one that I thought was deep at the time & now I think it's mostly silly)
― Euler, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
lol "Desire" is the only song on Rattle and Hum that I don't actively hate
maybe also the gospel "Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For"
thank God for Achtung, Baby! basically
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
naw, side 2 has lots of greatness, but specially the 1-2 punch of Exit and Mothers of the Disappeared at the very end. xp
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I love "Sowing the Seeds of Love" to death, especially the big psychedelic freak-out bridge that leads into the second "Time/To eat all your words" bridge
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
"Pictures of Matchstick Men" is a jam btw, & I think it's having broken big, more than other songs here, foreshadowed the one-hit-wonder funfest that was "alt" radio after the year punk broke a couple years later (& I mean that approvingly; those were good disposable days on the radio)(not that I'm calling CVB disposable, & at the time it was bizarre to see them break because for once ~I was there~)
― Euler, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
of the songs on this list I remember, I don't think there's a single one I dislike
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
is "Pictures of Matchstick Men" a cover of the Quo song?
― Rage Against the Man-Cream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes.
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I never knew it was a cover until about five years later when I was in an electronics store and someone was playing a live clip of Status Quo doing the song a million years ago on one of the tvs.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Nobody's gonna come right out and say they're voting for "Stand?" Fine, I'll do it. You know you all secretly love it.
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I not so secretly love it, but this is a GREAT list and Stand isn't the best thing on it imo.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Can be Debbie Downer for a second and say that, aside from "So Alive" and "**** (Jungle Law)", the s/t Love and Rockets album is kind of terrible?
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Motorcycle is pretty rad.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
basically "No Big Deal" and "Motorcycle" are my platonic ideal of everything Love and Rockets should never, ever, EVER do, whereas Earth, Sun, Moon is them at their best
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
love and rockets never did much for me! I like "So Alive" and parts of Earth Sun Moon but overall they don't interest me as much as bauhaus or especially the godlike TONES ON TAIL
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Bauhaus, L&R, Tones on Tail and Murphy solo all have some really great moments and some extremely dire moments. It's a very hot & cold group of musicians.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
tru
except I think everything Tones on Tail ever did is amazing (but their discography is the most limited of those 4)
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably slightly derailing the thread a little, but I've only heard Ash's solo albums. Are David J's any good?
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
you are asking me to rate my senior year of high school and I just can't do it. i will agree that "so alive" is crushed by "no new tale to tell" and add that "charlotte anne" is crushed by "my nation underground" so neither of these gets the nod.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
the david j solo stuff I've heard is terrible
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZlOErCDwc4
― o tannenbaum, o judge (crüt), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"So Alive" can hold its own with the rest of the L&R back catalogue IMO, it's just that the other songs on that album (except for "**** (Jungle Law)", which I think is one of their best songs) really, really cannot.
lol crut I was about to say "I'll Be Your Chauffeur" isn't bad
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I have hazy memories of having seen that video, but didn't remember the song. Sounds like Go-Betweens.
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
so rong! Side A has three great noisy guitar tracks & then the Motorcycle coda track segues into at least three or four nice moody psych tracks in the second half (SA included). Then again, this is one of those records that I could never, ever view objectively b/c of the effect it had on me at my most impressionable (musically speaking, age 12-13 or so).
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
See, L&R never really did it for me, and even though I love the two B-52s tracks, no band occupied as much of my mind at the time as REM did, so of those two songs, I have to go with "Stand."
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
By the time Love and Rockets came out I had already decided Earth, Sun, Moon and Express were fucking amazing, so hearing it just sounded like L&R trying and failing to be JAMC
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
wow i love a few of these songs and hate a whole bunch of them
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ massive "Desire" fan
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahah yeah no
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"so alive" hit #3 on the pop charts, it was kinda huge. I distinctly recall being freaked out that the dudes from bauhaus were coming out of every radio in america. little did I know what the 90s had in store for me.
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
the jjjusten top 5:
U2 - "Desire" (5 weeks)REM - "Stand" (2 weeks)Lou Reed - "Dirty Blvd" (4 weeks)Public Image Ltd. - "Disappointed" (1 week)The B-52s - "Love Shack" (4 weeks)Tears For Fears - "Sowing the Seeds of Love" (1 week)
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Hm, "Peekaboo" is pretty cool.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
voted Mayor of Simpleton and regretted it instantly. P-Furs, Reed, The Replacements and the motherfucking Love Shack all deserve it more. I even like that Siouxsie song.
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha -- on the 1990 poll I don't think anyone admitted to remembering "I'll be Your Chauffeur."
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha i swear i didnt look at DJP predictions until now but yeah pretty much dude kinda knows my tastes yall
LOVE:Siouxsie and the Banshees - "Peek-A-Boo" (2 weeks)The B-52s - "Channel Z" (3 weeks)Camper Van Beethoven - "Pictures of Matchstick Men" (3 weeks)The Jesus and Mary Chain - "Blues From A Gun" (3 weeks)
OK:REM - "Orange Crush" (8 weeks)Elvis Costello - "Veronica" (1 week)XTC - "The Mayor of Simpleton" (5 weeks)The Cure - "Fascination Street" (7 weeks)Love and Rockets - "So Alive" (5 weeks)Hoodoo Gurus - "Come Anytime" (3 weeks)Ian McCulloch - "Proud to Fall" (4 weeks)
DONT CARE/BLAH:Psychedelic Furs - "All That Money Wants" (3 weeks)Tears For Fears - "Sowing the Seeds of Love" (1 week)
HATE:U2 - "Desire" (5 weeks)REM - "Stand" (2 weeks)Lou Reed - "Dirty Blvd" (4 weeks)The B-52s - "Love Shack" (4 weeks)The Replacements - "I'll Be You" (1 week)Public Image Ltd. - "Disappointed" (1 week)Kate Bush - "Love and Anger" (3 weeks)
WORSE THAN I COULD HAVE IMAGINED:Big Audio Dynamite - "Just Play Music!" (1 week)
NOWHERE ON YOUTUBE SO IDK:Julian Cope - "Charlotte Anne" (1 week)
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
srsly tho holy shit i cant believe how fucking awful that big audio dynamite song is jesus christ
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I find it difficult to believe a BAD song from that time period could be WORSE than I can imagine; I mean, I lived through "Rush".
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
no me too, look it up on youtube, its astounding!
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
what the hell is this
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
we are going to need a new emoticon to accurately capture my reaction to this
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i know right?!?
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
what the fuck is happening in the middle of this fucking song
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
it's like they decided Starship was too tough and inaccessible for romcom soundtracks and they wanted to show them how you REALLY do it
oh just wait it keeps coming, right around the 3 minute mark it becomes particularly o_O
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I have been trying very very hard to ignore the blatant trolling at the beginning of the thread but The Knife has fuck-all to do with "Peek-A-Boo"
phew, that made me feel a little better, only I still have listened to that awful awful song
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
xp: that's what prompted the Starship comment!