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but yeah a Celine interview totally would've been a better climax for that book than "and now I'm going to actually listen to the album and talk about the songs besides the one from Titanic."

some dude, Sunday, 12 December 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxpost My surprise at NMH outselling Carl Wilson comes from how much coverage the latter got outside of music-geek circles - the James Franco plug being an extreme example - but I clearly underestimated the cult of In the Aeroplane Over the Sea.

xpost I thought the Loveless one was fine if you just want lots of back story and insight from Shields. Obviously the s(t)olid ones get overshadowed by Masters of Reality, 20 Jazz Funk Greats, etc but there's a place for books which just give you the facts in a likeable, readable way, which brings us back to the NMH book. Often I buy these for work-related research so maybe I'm more sympathetic to straightforward narratives than if I was buying them for dazzling prose and leftfield strategies.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, 12 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

my Bieber book is coming out next year

a cuter kind of annoying (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

now i gotta listen to the little fucker

a cuter kind of annoying (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

the book might be better if you didn't - keep it conceptual, yo

the tune is space, Sunday, 12 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm psyched for the Tusk one--I work with Rob Trucks' wife and he is a super nice guy

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 12 December 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought the Loveless one was fine if you just want lots of back story and insight from Shields. Obviously the s(t)olid ones get overshadowed by Masters of Reality, 20 Jazz Funk Greats, etc but there's a place for books which just give you the facts in a likeable, readable way

Well, that's exactly why I bought the Loveless book, so perhaps I'll be quite satisfied by it. And obviously I agree with your latter point since that's just the kind of book I wrote for Spiderland!

scott pgwp (pgwp), Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

as a louisvillian who was once accused of being a "slint-worshipper" by crustypunks, i can't wait to read the Spiderland one, so thanks for writing it!

the tune is space, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks! hope you like it.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 13 December 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

as a louisvillian

And I'm all "What did LJ ever do to you?"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 December 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

as a louis-villain

the tune is space, Monday, 13 December 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd be interested to know whether the dion book actually convinced any prejudiced music fan who didn't think she was worth taking seriously

Sort of? I'm old-ish; fairly rockist but open minded; need to have my hand held with a lot of cultural critical thinking... and I found a lot of it really interesting and eye-opening (and, most importantly, never condescending to anyone on any side of his arguments).

Or are you wondering if haters read the book and then, like, bought the album and now embrace and blast it?

She Got the Shakes, Monday, 13 December 2010 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Whiney you are ridic

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/sdolnack/f6fa2dd6.jpg

cowboy bibimbap (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

enfuque (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

lmfao

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Rly loving the <3 dotted "i"

cowboy bibimbap (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

<3bbbottt

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 07:45 (thirteen years ago) link

You've got the same handwriting as my crazy ex-gf.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

omg i want one of those

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Well they make great stocking stuffers and are available on Amazon now!

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, but signed w/ whiney dotted-i hearts?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Hate to spoil the lolz, but that is not whiney's handwriting(!)

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

omg you fraud

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Phew, glad I was able to cancel my Amazon order in time!

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Hate to spoil the lolz, but that is not whiney's handwriting(!)

― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:48 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just going to continue to believe that it is

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh God... why is she pretending to be an American rock critic...

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

no puppy no crumblability

predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

got a couple 33 1/3s for xmas, just finished the Radio City one, which is really good and gives a much more direct and detailed look at Big Star than most stuff written about the band, but it's also easily the most sloppily edited book in the series I've ever seen, just a really disconcerting number of sentences that are missing a word or a clause and barely make sense.

hann am0n tana (some dude), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

scott, your book is great! you did an outstanding job. especially your descriptions of the actual music. i'll be honest, these are usually the parts of music books - the detailed descriptions of songs - that make me zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz unless a writer is really good at it. and you are really good at it. congrats on the whole thing! write more books for me to read.

scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

and i feel like a big jerk for not reading more of these. no excuse. haven't read geeta's or drew's yet!? that's just so wrong. i am going online to get them.

scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

am reading the Born In The U.S.A. book at the moment and really diggin it

some dude, Monday, 28 February 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks man, I appreciate it. Definitely working on another book though I'm at the earliest possible stage in the process - the basic idea and list of what the content will be. All that's left is me writing 50-75k words.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

out of curiosity, what is the avg wordcount of the 33 1/3 books?

some dude, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Something like 35-40k I think? Mine was right in that window. I'll never forget printing the whole manuscript when I was done and saying to myself "I spent a year and half on this and this is all I wrote??"

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i just picked up yr book this weekend scott! about 50 pgs in and you've already shed so much light on the band.

call all destroyer, Monday, 28 February 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!

I met David Grubbs at EMP this weekend, as well as Clark Johnson's wife Diane, who was on a panel with Carl Wilson among others. Total trip - glad to note that David liked it, though he said it was (obviously) a strange experience to read about his teenage years.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

it was nice to meet david. for some reason i refrained from mentioning my mad teen squirrel bait love.

scott seward, Monday, 28 February 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I missed my opportunity to talk to him as if I were singing a Gastr del Sol song the whole time.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

man im dying for one on hounds of love

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Mark Richardon's book on the album Zaireeke by The Flaming Lips gives you a really detailed explanation of the album, the history of the band, and reader's thoughts and opinions of the album and how he personally ties in to the music. I recommend.

kanggene, Thursday, 3 March 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

my mate was telling me last night about an anecdote in the bowie book where "David Bowie is sat in a studio with tape spool all around him listening to the same beat for 3 minutes then going '..aaand STOP', with a fully-formed song in his head by the end." what song was this?

NI, Sunday, 6 March 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

also are any of these available for the kindle?

NI, Sunday, 6 March 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

my mate was telling me last night about an anecdote in the bowie book where "David Bowie is sat in a studio with tape spool all around him listening to the same beat for 3 minutes then going '..aaand STOP', with a fully-formed song in his head by the end." what song was this?
--NI

It was either Warzsawa or Art Decade, I believe.

And yes, they're on Kindle.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I went to the library to get that 33.3 on Low, but wound up walking out with Bowie In Berlin, a really sweet string of moments that begins with Bowie freaking out on Cameron Crowe in L.A. while eating peppers, milk and cocaine (literally checking the closed blinds for any signs of Jimmy Page, who Bowie thought had cursed him) to a more assured Bowie years later, wrapping up Lodger and moving with "Ashes to Ashes".

In between, Iggy Pop serves as a wingman, Bowie rides around in a hovercraft, Marc Bolan and Bing Crosby are both struck dead mere weeks after performing with Bowie and Bowie sees two familiar figures out kissing by the Berlin Wall.

Still haven't read the Low book, but I would definitely recommend this other one as well.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, actually just got back from the library today with a couple 33 1/3 books as well.

Got Vol. 1 & 2 of the Greatest Hits, which I actually thought would be a collection of the stories behind individual songs than just excerpts from already published books. Kinda dumb of me considering 33 1/3 is very focused on ~the album~. It's still fun to read, if not like just an extended brochure they expect you to pay for ($23 a copy!), and esp. considering it basically serves as sort of another "essential albums guide", with mini-stories on each.

Crouching Seward, Hidden Raggett (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

which album did you write about pgwp?

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Spiderland.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the kind words re Zaireeka, kanggene.

Mark, Monday, 7 March 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Would love to read a 33&1/3 book on "The Glow, Pt. 2" by the Microphones. Enjoyed most of the one's I've read already.

musicfanatic, Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link


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