But like I said in my Pazz & Jop essay last year, the trend lately definitely seems to be moving toward indie-rock dominating end-of-year lists as a whole in ways that no one genre has dominated in decades, if ever. (Assuming you think of indie-rock as just "one genre" -- lots of people don't.) Though looks like hip-hop might be doing better, in general, this year than last year -- even if the albums doing well are mostly predictable, and not necessarily all that good.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
otm music taste is way lamer, but still as diverse as, the early 00s
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think its basically a function of ppl getting to ignore the pop charts now so the echo chamber is harder than ever to puncture
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
people are comfy in their internet bubbles.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
My bubble is starting to smell funny.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
time to clean yer indie pod
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't even know that my chemical romance had an album out this year until i looked at one of those year-end lists. i'm in my stoner rock bubble too much i guess.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Mine reeks of NWOBHM spandex. Those red and white stripped ones are ripe!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
id rather write w/ an indie fan whose taste was well-articulated & unique/interesting even if strictly indie (lol does this exist) than a dude listing every j dilla clone who dropped an lp this year
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:33 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
altho i guess the q is whether there is an 'indie as a distinct genre' heirarchy that exists outside of 'critical acclaim'
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
so Kanye is considered to be indie rock now, huh?
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
well he is recording with Bon Iver
― BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
very tru.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
his music is also boring, wanky & pretentious lol
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
...but in a good way.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
In the world of US politics Deej wants us to accept that the glass is half-full and that Obama acting centrist is all we can get, but in the music crit world he wants his Waka (or is it some other rapper not listed above) and not that centrist choice Kanye
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
looooooool
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
im not on pfork expecting waka to go #1, no
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
it is a better album just like the ideal health care bill is better than the one that passed
but obvi that doesnt matter
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Pop Matters singles
60. Mutiny Within - Awake59. OK Go - White Knuckles58. Darren Hanlon - All These Things57. Mark Ronson and the Business International - Somebody to Love Me56. Mama’s Gun - Let’s Find a Way55. Here We Go Magic - Collector54. Daddy Yankee - Vida en la Noche”53. Josh Ritter - The Curse52. Foals - This Orient51. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - The Game Gets Old50. Flying Lotus feat. Thom Yorke - ...And the World Laughs With You49. The Roots - How I Got Over48. Beach House - Norway47. Crystal Castles feat. Robert Smith - Not in Love46. Owen Pallett - E Is for Estranged45. Jonsî - Go Do44. Frog Eyes - A Flower in a Glove43. Kylie Minogue - All the Lovers42. Gil Scott-Heron - New York Is Killing Me41. Surfer Blood - Take It Easy40. Liz Phair - Bollywood39. Frightened Rabbit - Swim Until You Can’t See Land38. Ryan Bingham & the Dead Horses - Depression37. Delorean - Stay Close36. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal (feat. Antony)35. MGMT - Flash Delirium34. The Hold Steady - The Weekenders33. Sufjan Stevens - Impossible Soul32. Eminem - Not Afraid31. Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill30. Titus Andronicus - A More Perfect Union29. Lady Gaga ft. Beyoncé - Telephone28. Justin Townes Earle - Harlem River Blues27. Sade - Soldier of Love26. Caribou - Odessa25. Best Coast - Boyfriend24.The New Pornographers - Sweet Talk Sweet Talk23. Kanye West - Runaway (feat. Pusha T)22. Surfer Blood - Swim21. Erykah Badu - Window Seat20. Blur - Fool’s Day19. LCD Soundsystem - All I Want18. Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company17. Gorillaz - Stylo16. The New Pornographers - The Crash Years15. Robyn - Dancing on My Own14. Spoon - Written in Reverse13. Sleigh Bells - Tell ‘Em12. Janelle Monáe - Cold War11. Miranda Lambert - The House That Built Me10. Deerhunter - Helicopter9. Gogol Bordello - Pala Tute8. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round7. Big Boi - Shutterbugg6. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean5. Kanye West - Power4. The National - Bloodbuzz, Ohio3. Arcade Fire - Sprawl II2. Janelle Monáe - Tightrope1. Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You
― Dan S, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, IlX's Dr. Phil voted in the Pop Matters poll for #54 while most folks mistakenly wrote off Daddy Yankee years ago.
Need to research this more, but I think that since Sasha Frere-Jones reviewed a big reggaeton show at Madison Square Garden in the New Yorker several years back, that he has not written about any Spanish-language pop since (despite his criticisms of others several years back).
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
stopped reading that list at
59. OK Go - White Knuckles
― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Love that DY song.
― bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
should have kept reading:
46. Owen Pallett - E Is for Estranged
(should also have been higher)
― BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Thursday, December 9, 2010 11:27 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
tbf sfj has kinda not been on the bleeding edge of anything for a minute
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't he busy writing a book or sumthing?
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I think so, but he still contributes some to the New Yorker and lists his 2010 best albums and singles on his blog or tumblr
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
since when is being on the bleeding edge of anything important?
oh wait i'm talking to deej, nvm
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
successfully zinged by ilxor, lose two "face" points
― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney deems zing successful #zingfail
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
oh look the comedy police
― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yummy Bingham and Live Goats
― Andy K, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
for a dude that had universal ilx praise round here for awhile im kind of in the he-fell-off camp. freddie gibbs piece was eye-roll-y, & there's something so trite & un-critical about stuff like this: "Get ready for a fight about the legitimacy of the group and, hopefully, for an influx of more South African pop culture."
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Any excuse to post thishttp://i52.tinypic.com/2coh6vs.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously i think that might have been my least favorite sentence from a great writer all year
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
hey look guys, herman's emerged from his false metal judging panel
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
*crickets*
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
*comedy cricket foot police*
― Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
*improper use of asterisks police*
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
pointless request but can we talk about music instead of each other because frankly this bullshit meta sniping is what makes you all incredibly tedious and useless
― BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
oh look the sniping police
― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Pop Matters singles list includes the title track from the Roots' How I Got Over. the album was released in June 2010 but that song was released as a single in June 2009.
― Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
had a good run for awhile there
― omar little, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
can you all just keep insulting each other cuz i'd actually prefer that to talk of the arcade fire and kanye.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
let's all talk about Vampire Weekend instead. i like 'em.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Rock-A-Rolla wrote back and said Reckless carries it. I've looked there before with no luck. I had 'em hold the Oct/Nov issue for me. I assume the one with the year-end list is Dec/Jan? It isn't there yet.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
aQ might get it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
They said the Young Gods cover with the list should be in U.S. stores in 2 wks. Does it have some good write-ups with each album?
Picked up Decibel last night, and both Ivar and Grutle of Enslaved put Motorpsycho in their top 5 (both also had Iron Maiden and Shining). It's not for everyone, but if you're into psych 'n' prog, I recommend it.
I gotta have respect for anyone who listens to more stuff than me (which seems to max out at 500 a year lately). I'd imagine if I had to listen to more than 1,000 new albums a year my habits would change and I would be less patient for growers, and more into stuff that spreads immediately with the hooks and the melodies.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, December 9, 2010 12:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i lolled. can al weigh in on this one too
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
that's not an actual request, is it
― Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link