― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 January 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
spot's a funny dude - some stuff sounds fantastic and totally appropriate to the band's aesthetic (meat puppets, minutemen, dinosaur), and sometimes he just suuuuuucks the power right outta the songs (a lotta HD and BF). metal circus is the best they ever sounded though and that's a spot one, so who knows?
― ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I think about this all the time, that you have these somewhat iconic indie bands of the early mid-80s who made all of these albums and toured with whatever gear they could cobble together from pawn shops and today if you go see even a local band getting started, often times both guitarists will have big, expensive half stacks and bass rigs.
I said it on another thread about the SST stuff, but I think at some point Spot's production went awry whenever they got their first digital reverb, as everything went from being real cool and dry to sounding like it was recorded in the bat cave. Zen Arcade, My War and Double Nickels sound real sparse and then the follow ups of New Day Rising, In My Head, Project Mersh and 3-Way Tie for Last has bunches of reverb.
Dinosaur Jr. being a east coast SST band did those records at home in Mass., I don't think they ever did anything with Spot.
I think one of Black Flag's problems on some of the later records is often times they were tracked together overdubbing the bass or guitar, unlike the first stuff which is pretty much the band live in a room.
― earlnash, Monday, 30 January 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Easy. You just play the top string open while feeling really sad.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Taking Sides: Keith Morris vs. Ron "Chavo Pederast" Reyes vs. Dez Cadena vs. Henry Rollins -- BLACK FLAG VOCALIST SMACKDOWN!
And lots more on Husker here:
Hart or Mould?
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Sadly, the use of all electronic devices is prohibited during takeoffs and landings. Brilliant idea, though.
Husker Du is like a jet engine designed by Keith Moon. You don't wanna get too close. And I can't think of any bands allegedly influenced by Husker that you could say that about.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Sure, but I BROKE TEH RULES.
― xero (xero), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Wish I still had that muddy cassette bootleg of the Du at 7th Street Entry in 1984. Hellacious roar in a small room.
All I recall thinking about HD's production was that the drums were unnecessarily loud on every one of Grant's songs.
― xero (xero), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Wait a minute...I thought there was a best Husker album poll here. Please point me to it. Thanks.
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link
There is a poll, but I can't find it either.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Fuck! Look I really need someone to tell me which album to try. Something early. Please. I need to know which album got the most votes. Thanks.
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Convention says go with Zen Arcade or New Day Rising. i say both. I think new day rising just beat zen arcade in the poll but I cant remember even though I think it was my poll.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks! So sad that we can't find it. What about Land Speed...
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
it prob got the least as it was a superfast live record. I tried the ilx google search and still cant find it.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
What about Metal Circus?
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Best Hüsker Dü Album (POLL Ends 4th May)
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Metal Circus is awesome too. I love them all really. Warehouse is my least fave but it does have some cracking songs
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Metal Circus and Zen Arcade are my faves.
― sleeve, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Heheh. Okay I'll write this down right now. Thanks guys.
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Warehouse was the only album I ever had of them. I taped it from the radio station I DJ'd at years ago. It had some great moments...but very long.
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
just trust me when i saw New Day Rising, Zen Arcade, Metal Circus and Flip Your Wig are infinitely better! The others I would say are too, though for some reason there's a split with Candy Apple Grey. Here in the UK it's highly rated but not so much in the states. Warehouse is seen by fans as the weakest. and yes, it is a bit long.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Candy Apple Grey is the New Day Rising, man.
― Bimble, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
as far as the HD/Pixies/Nirvana connection goes (way upthread), on the acoustic demos released as Frank Black Francis, Charles calls "Caribou" the one that sounds like Husker Du...also on one of those stupid f#$king lists...25 band in the last 25 years or something, Charles says that when he formed the Pixies he owned five albums, "and three of them were Husker Du."
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 6 January 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I just heard their cover of the Mary Tyler Moore theme "Love Is All Around"!!! Wow that is fucking cool as shit. Totally missed that during my entire recent Husker Du trip.
― Bimble, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/MaryHat.jpg
― Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 31 March 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
HAHAAHAAHAH! WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made my night.
― Bimble, Monday, 31 March 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link
bump because- i just had a thought
somefker remaster them or 'whatever' it is you do.please
everything they did
anybody questioning the Du's massive influence needs interrogating. they will be proven wrong
― Fer Ark, Friday, 15 August 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Remasters/reissues of the HD back catalogue have been held back indefinitely due to either a) the fact that the guys just can't get along, despite Mould being interested in handling things (which might be the problem right there) or b) the master tapes are lost in a dusty old box somewhere between Lawndale and Texas.
― MacDara, Friday, 15 August 2008 11:56 (fifteen years ago) link
What a dull band.
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 15 August 2008 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link
It might all be the supposedly notorious bad transfers done by SST for their CDs, though, for all I know, I have nothing on vinyl. But everything sounds so thin!
Jack Brewer says that they paid some kid to drop a needle on the vinyl to 'master' many CD issues. Dude's got no reason to lie about that.
Actually, by the time those last three records came out, Spot had pretty much quit producing records for SST. He only had a hand in New Day Rising (on which Mould's guitars sound amazing, IMHO); Project: Mersh was Ethan James and Carducci, and 3-Way Tie was James again. I think SST must've had a hard-on for James because he used to be in Blue Cheer, but a lot of the stuff he produced sounds off.
― MacDara, Friday, 15 August 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
You've obviously never heard Metal Circus, then.
― MacDara, Friday, 15 August 2008 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought they were great at the time, but posterity hasn't been kind. The whole wall-of-guitar-fuzz thang sounded shockingly fresh when I first heard it, but it was eventually done better harmonically by Sonic Youth, and melodically by My Bloody Valentine.
I still listen to SY and MBV regularly, but can't really be bothered with the Huskers these days. Also, they had the worst drum sound ever committed to tape. Not their fault I'm sure, but it still counts against them......
― PhilK, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link