Public Image Limited : When did you get off the bus?

Albums: after Metal Box. I sort-of meant to get around to buying Flowers Of Romance, but economic circumstances went against it.

Singles: after "Don't Ask Me".

"Disappointed" in the running for best PIL single though.

Didn't we poll them?

This is not a love poll: Best/Favourite Public Image Limited single Poll

oh yeah, *I* did...

Think I would have voted for 'Home' in that.

also, for those who haven't seen this..:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/DSC00335.jpg

Paris au Printemps remains my fave PiL, btw--even tho i never really listen to it these days (i generally wimp out to the more sedate strains of ye olde Metal Box instead, tbt). but, man, the fucking ambiance of the thing is so beyond oppressive that i don't believe i could ever imagine better (or more appropriate) doomsday scenario music. add to that the fact that the live version of "Poptones" contained therein may well be my favorite live rock + artist/audience interaction performance extant (Wanker: "ATTACK! ATTACK!!"; John: "Wanker-shut-up..."; Audience "?"; John: "I'll walk of this fuckin stage if you keep spitting...DOGGG!"). and that its got a great/sick painted cover "portrait" of Lydon-Levene-Wobble as Jackass-Big Bird-looking thing-hirsute swamp beast(?), too. so, yeah, i really dig that one. and the sound of the original vinyl edition is truly brootal. but in a really good way. (sound on the cd sucks, natch. but then whadja expect?)

off, maybe...

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ILM OTM imo

"Disappointed" still their second best single (after "Public Image")

Anyone thinking of getting back on the bus for <i>This is PiL</i>? Heard the new track linked over at <A HREF="http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-premiere-public-image-ltd-deeper-water-20120517)";>Rolling Stone</A> and it seems okay enough. Got the <i>One Drop</I> EP for RSD this year but still haven't gotten around to listening to it...was a bit scared, tbh.

Whoops, meant to convert my code. New track is at http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-premiere-public-image-ltd-deeper-water-20120517

Yeah, almost bought the e.p.

Should, really...

huh that's pretty good!

Actually I really like that new track!

I don't think I ever got off the bus with PiL, but Lydon's collab with Afrika Bambaataa would make me get off any bus or cliff

After two spins, the new album is half-brilliant, half-not-doing-it-for-me. About the same as "That What Is Not" in terms of hit/miss ratio. I'm particularly enmored with "Lollipop Opera", which feels like a Fall song!

I don't think I ever got off the bus with PiL, but Lydon's collab with Afrika Bambaataa would make me get off any bus or cliff

wtf @ this, "World Destruction" is a killer single

One Drop ep is very good.

Aero otfm. "World Destruction" is all-time, and I bet it'd get a helluva reception in any club

Oh, and the track PiL did on the Dennis Miller show is fantastic:
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=vyOJ91KYh7E

Never got off this bus

Not really.

By the way, they were awesome live in 2010 with some interesting reinventions of old songs. There's been a bunch of live shows from that tour released, anyone have a recommendation on which one is the best?

there is a live show or two on spotify, which I guess were released? they are pretty good, and I liked the new single, will check them out again if they tour since I missed that 2010 show. but yeah, happy through that what is not is some serious dregs that they wisely have avoided in recent setlists.

album is a fucking classic though, I love it (along with Swans Burning World, the other 'laswell jazzbo sellout' production from the same era)

"World Destruction" is the sound of two all-time musicians reaching their nadir at the exact same moment.

there remained an awful lot of nadir to go, man

btw I won't hear a thing said against "Disappointed."

finding it hard to believe that anyone hates 'world destruction'

we live in a world that has made Justin Bieber an international superstar, of course there are people who hate "World Destruction"

oh not you too, Dan

Huh! I'm genuinely surprised it has its fans!

GTFO, World Destruction slays.

this recent anti-WD mood on ILX takes me completely by surprise

Want to boldly say something like 'Album is the only thing involving Laswell I ever need to hear again' but ehh I guess there's Ask The Ages.

what, She's The Boss didn't move you?

D^%E&Y*&^(&*#$^*(

World Destruction is classic - took me ages to figure out what that song was when I kept hearing it on KROQ as a teen

oh not you too, Dan

wtf, no not me too, I'm just saying it's kind of crazy to assume everyone loves a song (unless that song is "Wanna Be Starting Something")

I could be wrong but I think Alfred was referring to your Bieber diss.

That's not even a diss (even though it's true I intensely dislike Bieber), it's more an acknowledgement of the existence of Venn diagrams

so.....should I check out their show on Friday?

it could be good, it could be bad

it could be wrong, it could be right

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxe3u9vhF1qa6myvo1_250.jpg

they put a hot wire to his head!

now in the endless summer, I could be happy or in distress, depending on the company

I never imagined a time when Brian Wilson would look better than John Lydon.

i saw them in 2010 and the first issue/metal box stuff was FANTASTIC - even if none of them actually played on it. The "psycho's path"/"rise"/"disappointed" seemed to please those old enough to remember them from college radio, but I just waited it out. Latest song they played was that Leftfield "Open Up" number though - would totally see them again on a Plays Metal Box tour but not sure about the new material.

i should exclude "psycho's path" from that college rock comment

That's true, though I can imagine Hutchence wailing through "Disappointed."

closer to Max Q than INXS

musically I hear it, vocally no, which is what I assume Alfred meant

Yup

anyway I had the same experience most of us probably did, which is that I liked Happy and 9 when they came out, then deciced they sucked, and now I appreciate them fine for what they are. And even though the newer PIL albums were pretty cool on first listen, I find myself listening to Happy and 9 more than I ever listen to them (I still listen to Album more than any of them)

Everything up to and including Album, which sounds better to me all the time, even aspects I don't always love (Vai's shredding at points for inst) I can at least appreciate in a "wow you are really going for it huh?" way

I've tried with everything after & on paper that band should be great but...eh Some of the reunion stuff hasn't been too bad, some of it is just awful though

This thread also inspired me to pull out Plastic Box which is such a frustrating thing becuz it never can decide if it wants to be a solid career overview or a collection of alternate mixes/rarities and ends up settling on "the records but the songs are out of sequence"