THEY FLY SLOWLY @ U FACE WITH SWORDS
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh thats the video? i just assumed that was a screenshot + song.
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda sums up the whole album tbqh
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, Kanye does music?
― Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Who are we trying to fool. This is clearly not the 'Kid A' of our new decade.
this only works if you believe Kid A was the #1 "big artistic statement" of last decade, amirite?
― i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Does feel a bit like Pitchfork were jumping the gun and were trying to define the decade very early on.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't think this has anything to do with defining the decade though? It doesn't relate to the direction hiphop or indie or etc. is going in. Pop maybe I think the next Gaga/JT/next Swedish craze will be more important in that case.
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Exactly, hence jumping the gun.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
it totally relates to the direction mainstream hip hop is headed in at the moment, although of course that doesn't necessarily have any bearing on the next 9 years and nobody can really predict that far ahead anyway.
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Except the Mayans
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
does mainstream hiphop still exist? /or what does this have to do with the upcoming t.i*./young jeezy/soulja boy?
*or did this actually come out and i just didn't notice?
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
but i mean, grading on scale i see no problem w/ calling him the "MJ" of our generation -- raw chart numbers are only part of the story obv, or else you could just hand that title to usher
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:32 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah, this is nuts. mj is in a classification that doesn't even exist anymore. mj's pop saturation meant 1st graders and grandmas knew his stuff, you couldn't get in somebody's car without stepping on a copy of thriller, there was absolutely no escape from the guy. kanye self-selects an audience just by dint of his language and themes.
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
kanye might be the prince of his generation but even that's stretching it
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
MBDTF vs. purple rain and let me know when to stop laughing
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:02 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
for starters, Nicki has a starmaking turn on the album and the whole aesthetic of the album heavily influences and/or is influenced by Kid Cudi and Drake, and those 3 artists latest/next albums will probably sell more than those of the 3 artists you named
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
is the nicki actually selling? also sorry i forgot lol young money types, i live in a place they are easy to ignore.
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a whole convo somewhere upthread about how some sources are reporting that Minaj's album is selling as well as and possibly even more than Kanye's this week
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
won the 10 but lost the war
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
find that v. v. hard to believe
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
why
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
poor yeezy, he's being curtis-ed
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
That was me that was just repeating what was on hits daily double & they're almost always within 10k with their projections -- they probably have actual numbers up now
It sounds crazy to me too but what kanye has in "buzz" nicki has in near radio omnipresence since the spring or so
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
if anything, it makes more sense to compare the two sprawling, overstuffed, slightly inconsistent/flawed, but thoroughly compelling epic albums -- twisted fantasy vs. sign 'o' the times, anyone?
― i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean the singles off her album are in way heavier rotation than Kanye's, but generally speaking an artist's stature and preexisting fanbase count for a lot w/ first week sales, so i'm still going to be pretty surprised if she does outsell him or even come close.
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
comparing this to SOTT is total sacrilege to me.
comparing this to SOTT is like comparing your grandma's fried chicken to Shake n Bake.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Even though I really didn't care for it when I listened that one time, when I saw this in HMV yesterday I was soooooo tempted to buy it. God knows why. Put it down once I saw Toy Story 3 (which I also didn't buy, mainly because I had to put it down and go outside for some phone signal).
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
twisted fantasy vs. 'hello'
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
wow someone's actually just gone ahead and compared this thing to sign o the times
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:35 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
co fucking sign
― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
like...beginning to think that the argument that some people just want their generation to have its own prince/MJ figure so badly that they'll anoint anyone for anything is actually right
c'mon face up to the fact that we just aren't going to get a sign o the times of our own!
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
this is more abbey road to me (i.e. a bloated horrible mess unjustly hyped)
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Abbey Road at least ends in less than forty minutes.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Next week, with Black Friday looming, look for Roc-A-Fella/IDJ’s Kanye West to debut at #1, with Cash Money/Universal Motown’s Nicki Minaj a lock for #2, Other new releases include Reprise’s My Chemical Romance, Def Jam/IDJ’s Ne-Yo, Roc Nation’s Jay-Z greatest hits album, SRC/Universal Motown’s Akon, Arista Nashville’s Alan Jackson, RCA/RMG’s Burlesque soundtrack (with Christina Aguilera and Cher), Universal Republic’s Atomic Tom, Warner Bros. Nashville’s John Rich and Kemosabe/RCA/RMG’s Ke$ha deluxe edition.
also why stop at SOTT? MBDTF vs Sgt Pepper's!
stupid xposts
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
3 versions of 'hello', an 8 minute version of 'bob george', 'my name is prince', kirstie alley, a pro-coke version of 'pop life', & a passive aggressive version of 'purple rain' = twisted fantasy
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"Really this is most analogous to Beethoven's symphonies"
i'm pretty much down to comparing this to any beatles album really, it's THAT bad
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't get this at all. Hooray death of the monoculture, etc.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
beginning to think that the argument that some people just want their generation to have its own prince/MJ figure so badly that they'll anoint anyone for anything is actually right
odd how much lex and I see eye to eye these days...
― in a style known as "Early Cleveland" (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
also hoping more for our generations motor booty affair than sott
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Hooray death of the monoculture, etc.
I started a thread about this awhile back. it did not go well.
― in a style known as "Early Cleveland" (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
uh guys I don't think y'all noticed but the point was that kanye can't really measure up to prior pop achievements, not that dude has made a classic on the same shelf
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i blame nostalgia culture, esp for things people weren't sentient enough to actually remember
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the only one of these analogies i hear batted about that actually manages to annoy me is when ppl go gaga = madonna. i'm pro-gaga but motherfucker plz.
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Late Registration is better than any MJ record imo.
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
that is because you are insane
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
gaga/madonna is just lazy, like kate bush/tori amos - they work within broadly the same genre but their approaches and skills and general aesthetics are hugely different
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
either way, "better" is not as important a distinction in this discussion as "central to pop culture"
xxp
― tween-justin-bieber-riot-of-09-pandemonium-arrests-terror+tweeting (Edward III), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll take late registration over any marlon jackson record.
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
thriller has paul mccartney, late registration has cam'ron. naturally lr is better.
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link