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[x]-on-acid, followed closely by [x]-on-[other drug]

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I still think [x]-on-e has some life left in it.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

"filler"

maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"pretentious" can be ok when qualified a bit and then read as a compliment.

(hstencil so otm - "singer/songwriter" has been lazy nonsense for years)

jones (actual), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

"pop sensibility"

"[artist] was one of the most unlikely stars of [decade]"

Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

soundscape

gygax!, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

"plaintive" to describe young white males who can't really sing

ben sterling (frozen in time), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

calling new albums "latest outings"

Captain Sleep (Captain Sleep), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

"effort" as a synonym for an album.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

stellar

bflaska, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

"singer/songwriter" has been lazy nonsense for years

I'm a I'm a hunter-gatherer I kill what I eat
I'm a I'm a singer-songwriter I write what I sing

(Geewhiz I haven't quoted Big Black lyrics in like 12 yrs)

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the [40s/50s/60s/70s/80s/90s] are back"

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

LUSCIOUS POUTING!!!

up there with "cathedrals of sound"

kate, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

adenoidal.

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

old-school

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

splenetic

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

splenetic? What the hell does that mean?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think its mu-jo shorthand for 'angry' or 'shouty' music..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

of the spleen?

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

underrated

bflaska, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I prefer music that comes from the liver. The spleen is so last millenium.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

frenetic?
i think splenetic is that red website with all those reviews every day...

ben sterling (frozen in time), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

"compelling"

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

"felching"

Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I don't think anyone who uses the term actually knows the word's rather unappetising origin in gay San Francisco slang)

Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

"aw, bless" (or variations thereof)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILX

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

everything that Mark Beaumont writes

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I've used just about all of these at one point or another (except maybe felching).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

off-kilter dynamics

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with "post-punk." It describes a rather specific sound and period....

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Someone should text search all these on robertchristgau.com and tally up the results.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

cultural tourism

robin (robin), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Ear Candy" and "SEMINAL"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

ew seminal ear candy

come to think of it "singer/songwriter" might become useful again eventually, it just isn't right now (heh except as in "nah, [x*] sucks; i'm into introspective singer/songwriters like eminem etc")

(*makes most sense if [x] = eg.destiny's child, but has greater potential if [x] = eg.wilco)

actually if it's meant derisively "s/s" is useful for exactly the reasons it sticks in my craw

jones (actual), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

what about "the seminal 'is it all over my face'" from the disco not disco sleeve?

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm with Ned on this one, guilty as charged.

Jerry, felching involves shit & clingfilm, right? I've never used that in a review! Got fairly close when writing about Simian once though..."I'd rather take a shit than hear any more of this. So that's what I did".

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh oh!

"...and X is no exception"

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

ok that's not music but it's still terrible. my pet hate is still prob 'sonic'

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

charlie you sound like a really good music journalist

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who uses 'felching'?!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha i wanted googlism to say "felching is safe" so i could say "tomas!!", but it didn't

jones (actual), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's used when people mean "farting"... similar (well, in the same area) but rather fundamentally different usage of air. God, we editors are pedants.

Jerry (Jerry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Or not. Thinking about it, farting isn't usually a sexual act

Jerry (Jerry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jones, Tomas stopped doing CD reviews! I was gutted when I found out.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

:(

jones (actual), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know what you're eating, Jerry, but ...

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

"life affirming"

james devon, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

New Rock Revolution.

End of thread.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the new wave of new wave" (nice one NME)
"the scene that celebrates itself" - what in fucks name was that even meant to mean? I know it was bands like Lush and Moose... but it was so dumb.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Americana" is badly abused by BRITISH journalists. They would
consign rock with any hint of country to the ghetto of "Americana,"
as if ALL of rock's major moves were invented here, anyway.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

ahem, that should read
"as if ALL of rock's major moves WEREN'T invented here, anyway"

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 1 July 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"Commercial" for fucking sake!

It's Rodney, poised and rational! (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 2 July 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

it's july. how did that happen?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe that no one's said "overproduced," which is a word that doesn't really mean anything.

max (maxreax), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

it's the opposite of "underproduced"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"dreamy"

cdwill (cdwill), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe that no one's said "overproduced," which is a word that doesn't really mean anything.

Sure it does.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Sunday, 2 July 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

'Nuff said.

incendiary, flaming, aural, bliss, sonic, in flames, from hell, talking about music is like dancing about architecture, blistering, contact high.

John W. Smoke, Jr. (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 2 July 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Rationing Board overdue to act on: Transcend, Subversive.

don (dow), Sunday, 2 July 2006 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

epic (= longer than 3 minutes)


(so "long and epic" = "I'm paid by the word")

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 2 July 2006 08:04 (seventeen years ago) link

sounds like ___________ on acid

Wow, I'd never noticed how annoying that is. You'd think somebody might've pointed out that it was annoying before.

Duck Rivers (noodle vague), Sunday, 2 July 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Snarf actually means something? Heavens, what?

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), February 12th, 2003. (Ned)

Snarfing is "the act of sniffing a bicycle seat after a lady has just been seated upon it"

-- Jerry (everet...)February 13th, 2003. (Jerry)

i always thought snarfing was when you laugh when you're in the middle of drinking and it comes out your nose,no?

-- robin (robin_lace...), February 13th, 2003. (robin)

I'm sure there are snarfing e-groups on Yahoo.

-- Vic (Iodine99...), February 13th, 2003. (Vic)


Dagnabbit! I thought I had found a usage of "snarfing" in a song. It turns out I haven't but I feel I'm closing in. My misheard lyric comes courtesy of Ed Sanders and Ken Weaver from the Fugs album "It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest": the track is track 7 on side two of the LP--"We're Both Dead Now, Alice."

We're both dead now.

No more Viceroys

No more K-Y

No more slurpings at the narthax

All is over

Over the lee.

If anyone has used Snarf(s/ed/ing) in a song, it has to be the Fugs.

J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Sunday, 2 July 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I will always think of "Snarf" as a noun that denotes the colorful sidekick of the Thundercats. Snarf-the-being continually says "Snarf!" in a whiny, neurotic manner as an expression of fear/anxiety.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 2 July 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Snarf - Lion-O's nursemaid, Snarf is a small, fat, cat-like creature from the Valley of the Snarfs on Thundera. Not fond of his proper name, "Osbert". When Lion-O aged to maturity, the Lord of the ThunderCats didn't feel he needed a babysitter anymore. Still, Snarf is the most loyal of ThunderCats and their most underrated member. His relatives now live on the Planet of the Snarfs after escaping Thundera's destruction. Snarfs are the only creatures in the universe incapable of evil (except while possessed).

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Sunday, 2 July 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoah, Osbert, eh? I had no idea. Thanks!

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 2 July 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess Osbert just doesn't roll off the tongue the way Snarf does.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Sunday, 2 July 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

use of the term "transcendent" without explication of how the song/album/sound transcends...what?

trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 2 July 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

But transcendent simply means "Surpassing others; preeminent or supreme."

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Sunday, 2 July 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"the smart money is on"

can we gamble on music? An ILM dream I'm sure.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 2 July 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be in the cold, cold ground before I stop using 'keybs.'

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 3 July 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost yeah, but "Surpassing all others, preeminent or supreme" how often does that happen; using it that way in a damn record review usually seems grandiose, not even carried away by enthusiasm for the music, but more like "This has to be important, because I'm reviewing it!" But also just sort of standard-yet-inflationary. And really the non-hype use , judging by context, really comes down to something like, "this album's not perfect, but more bad than good," or "succeeds in spite of itself," which is often the most interesting kind of thing to write and read about and maybe even listen to, I think! But I'm not saying it's not the mot juste sometimes, not trying to *ban* anything mentioned on here, really,that's why I mentioned the Rationing Board. (dammit, some things are "crisp," etc.; texture can very appropriate to mention, long as you don't leave it at that, or use that or any other term too often or too predictably.)

don (dow), Monday, 3 July 2006 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
there's so many threads about overused words/phrases on here, but i somehow didn't see anyone mention my biggest pet peeve in music criticism (maybe i missed it?): the word "unlistenable." how can sound be unlistenable?

here's an excerpt of a review on stylus today:

While searching for information regarding Camille's Le Fil, the most frequent description you’ll run into is that the album is "the French pop equivalent to Björk's Medúlla." A bit troubling, considering that the Matthew Barney stroke-a-thon is one of the most pretentious, unlistenable albums of the last five years.

ooh, the pretentious/unlistenable double whammy! i've heard medulla plenty of times now and i can't say it's ever occured to me to describe 45 minutes of sound as "unlistenable."

spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Monday, 31 July 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"fetid underbelly"

shookout (shookout), Monday, 31 July 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
Is it still okay to say 'Cut to July 2006...' or whatever in a music feature, or has that been murdered through overuse?

Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

using that once is murdering it

exayve (xave), Friday, 9 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"Blog-ready" "blog-friendly" "blog-driven" etc.

Obviously it's forgivable to discuss blogs if you're talking about the marketing of a band, (which itself is quite overdone as a story these days), but it doesn't say one thing about the music, and it's always used to seem *in-the-know* but blase while avoiding actually saying anything new about the artist.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Our radio station advisor sent out the weekly DJ playlist email describing Lily Allen as a "breakthrough blog-pop act". I suppose the right way for him to have said it is "MySpace-pop" but again that really doesn't lend any insight either.

musically (musically), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

BOXCAR

senator second p. newcastle (a_p), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Our radio station advisor sent out the weekly DJ playlist email describing Lily Allen as a "breakthrough blog-pop act".

It's like calling a band "e-mail blastcore"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link


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