which one of you is KyleP
― Baron Strange of Knockin (DJP), Friday, 12 November 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
nabisco otm
― johnny crunch, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i really like this album a lot but like i have no idea how it's gonna age -- i'm wary because i find 'graduation' pretty distasteful at this point even tho i dug it when it came out -- feel like as kanye gets worse as a rapper he has to step it up sonically, and i think he pretty much did that here, but maybe those surprises will eventually cease to be surprises & the album will kinda just feel like a dud
but that's down the road -- i'm bumping it now
― J0rdan S., Friday, 12 November 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
this is pleasin meh
― max, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej otm? (some dude), Friday, 12 November 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, 12 November 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
this
― dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Friday, 12 November 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i like to read the rza having the last verse on "so appalled" as a sly commentary on the crapfest that is that songrza is just so appalled by cyhi da prynce -- like, he can't even rap, he's just reduced to screaming about how ridiculous it is
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i like the songs for the most part, but my first impression is that this thing is horribly sequenced.
― borntohula, Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i like that most of the singles/high profile leaks are clustered in the middle and the songs that are still 'new' (to me, at least) are around the beginning and end, but beyond that i can't tell from one listen if i like the sequencing. i'm not sure there's any sequencing that would make me like this more, at least.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
This his second worst album. After five listens I find most of this lazy if not stupid lyrically (I'm very tired of an ostensibly straight multimillionaire still -- still! -- finding whores his ideal of femininity), and not particularly adventurous sonically. I love Cudi's bit on "Gorgeous" (he sounds menacing and attractive in a way Kanye can't mimic), find "Runaway" obnoxious-good, and the rest is okay to terrible.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
most of these tracks sound like products of uninteresting superstar self-absorption.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
nitsuh's review is A+
― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a good piece of rhetoric, yes, with which I don't agree at all. To my ears Kanye's gotten less interesting as he's gotten more opulent.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
dude i agree w/ you but his review is hard to disagree w/ except as a matter of degree
― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
with alfred 100% on this. i stanned for kanye hardcore from '02 to '05, but i've grown out of it as his music has gotten less surprising, more focused on his cult of personality than ideas or hooks.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think you read the review then
― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
The constant push for more sometimes makes the album feel bloated and indulgent, or like it’s too interested in turning hip-hop into moody art music; plenty of rap fans have watched West get more and more baroque, as his career goes on, and turned their attention back toward more elemental sounds.
I love lots of reviews for their elegance and pithiness without agreeing with them. He's OTM about "Power" though.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i think theres no question that *most music fans* dont agree w/ us & he acknowledges our perspective so im not sure how u can 'disagree' w/ his articulation of the record
― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, but, deej, it's clear nabisco admires it FOR those qualities despite reservations, whereas I don't admire it and have lots of them.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link
xxpost
This -
The constant push for more sometimes makes the album feel bloated and indulgent, or like it’s too interested in turning hip-hop into moody art music;
- coincides with my feelings about Graduation, the last time I cared about him.
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
― whats goin on witchu iron mane (deej), Friday, November 12, 2010 9:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
was agreeing with alfred's post describing his take on the record, not re: the review. although the review, while it had good parts, i can't say resonated with me beyond just my opinion on the quality of the record.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
haha status on fb:
J**** D**** after years of saying he was a genius who could compete with the likes of Radiohead, Kanye West has finally become just that. What an album.
to which I responded
didn't think he could make an album that sucks as hard as in rainbows but here we are...
promptly deleted. love trolling.
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
The increasing navel-gazing is generally a bummer, but I'm sort of in awe at how he's able to fold such a diverse set of samples and ideas into a pretty cohesive sound. If his lyrics were half as generous as his beats, he'd blow (more) minds. That said, I'm really enjoying the record overall - hell, the guy even makes Fergie sound good.
― Simon H., Saturday, 13 November 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
looooool xp
― markers, Saturday, 13 November 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I love Cudi's bit on "Gorgeous" (he sounds menacing and attractive in a way Kanye can't mimic)
fuck outta here with this
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link
this is like an audiophile test record, like people will play it to show off how awesome their system sounds but nobody will actually listen to this for pleasure
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the sequencing is pretty fine, but the massive posse cuts kind of do throw off the flow of things -- like i think has pretty much been judicious and spot on w/ his guests dating all the way back to college dropout, but this one is like "oh hey another jay-z verse sandwiched in here", "oh hey it's the rza", nicki kinda steals the show there for a minute -- it's just a bit odd
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i will listen to this for pleasure, also i don't have a soundsystem
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
what the hell are these shouty parts added to runaway
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
to clarify, i like cudi's bit on "gorgeous" too, but saying that he's "menacing and attractive in a way that kanye can't mimic" is, to borrow a phrase, twaddle
wtf at runaway being an 8 minute long guitar noodle fest now
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
wait what
― markers, Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
did he get trey from phish to guest
As ever I love nabisco's prose and thought, but I have no idea what the record sounds like or if I'd like it.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty sure I am just gonna uncheck "So Appalled" at all times. Hate the Swizz + Jay parts especially.
― Simon H., Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda like the so appalled beat but its a weird choice of beat to use for a posse cut imo
― ciderpress, Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a ponderous album
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:08 (thirteen years ago) link
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:04 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i wonder how 'good' this actually sounds to an audiophile, though, compared to other rap or just in general. it feels to me like there's a lot of layers and a lot of stuff in the mix but i'm not really dazzled by the texture or the clarity or anything (especially compared to Late Registration), and i kinda wonder if this is one of those records where everything being made and heard on expensive studio monitors kinda made them think it would sound like a million bucks but on the average regular person's stereo it's nothing special.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I have pretty good audio equipment and it sounds good. the layers will get separated by good sound equipment, but yeah it can def sound mushy the lower you go on the sound equipment scale.
I was impressed by the drum sounds on lost in the world
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that was definitely one of the better sounding songs to me. although i'm pretty tired of all of kanye's uptempo songs having an airy PSHHHH snare sound.
― deej otm? (some dude), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"rapist known as freedom freed doom"
-_-
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"abomination of obama's nation"
-0-
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
reupholstered pussy buffet
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I think some of these songs are the equivalent of bacon wrapped corn dogs deep fried in butter w/ french fries stapled to the sides. they sound really good but are exhausting to listen to. think runaway works so well because the arrangement is relatively spare & simple.
― swagl (dayo), Saturday, 13 November 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link
so what you're saying is all the songs should be 9 minutes long
― Simon H., Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the single version of runaway I downloaded a month ago is much better than the album version
― dayo, Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link
hood phenomenonthe lebron of rhyme
^^i think this makes waaaaaay more sense than kanye realizes
― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link