10 Intelligent questions for Oneida

Thanks. I admit to being skeptical about the "no drums" thing, but I'm sure these guys can pull off something amazing anyway.

That article was great. This band is almost "too good." A ridiculous, overused phrase. But seriously? Seriously.

hey, even more live oneida, again courtesy nyctaper: http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=4227

Oneida? More like OneIdea, amirite?

lol j/k

I gotta load up my ipod with all these live O jams.

sample from Thank Your Parents part 3:
http://www.scjag.com/mp3/jag/horizonedit.mp3

it's called Absolute II and its out 6th june, whoop!

can't listen to it at work but: yessssssssssssssssss!

no drums on this one.
just got sent it by the fine fine label so gonna give it a listen in a bit

no drums!?

I felt like crying when I heard this. I probably had too high an expectation of it.

I just heard about this yesterday...it's already on rym on the Jagjaguwar page

no drums!?

― tylerw, Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

These guys have pretty much done everything. I think that they've earned the license to do whatever they want.

Oh, agreed, and I'm still looking forward to this more than pretty much everything, but Kid Millions is such a brilliant drummer that its still a little disappointing. Kind of like hearing King Crimson in their prime would have a record without Fripp playing guitar or something.

fromt he Jagjaguwar site:

SONG LIST:
Pre Human
Horizons
Gray Area
Absolute II

Absolute II CD / LP (JAG190, released: 06/07/11)
Absolute II is the final piece in Oneida's Thank Your Parents triptych of releases, begun in 2008 with Preteen Weaponry and followed by 2009's acclaimed triple disc Rated O. With this release, the Brooklyn group concludes a challenging and profound long-term project. The Thank Your Parents triptych, totaling around 200 minutes, is intended to be listened to as a whole or in its component parts. Absolute II stands on its own, in addition to serving as a chapter in an immense whole.

The music on Absolute II is startling, rigorous and demanding. Oneida is a band that has been strongly identified with the frenetic, fluid drumming of Kid Millions and the relentless pulse of classic Krautrock, but this release contains neither audible drums nor identifiable "rock" music. The recordings move freely across accepted boundaries of rhythm, harmony, and tonality – not in the form of dramatic, willful experiment, but as a musical distillation of several themes that have emerged in the wake of Rated O's dynamism: paralysis, entropy, stasis, possibility, and finality among them.

While Oneida is known for unpredictability and sui generis musical forms, this release is particularly resistant to categorization, and it remains difficult to identify precise influences on the music contained here. This is particularly unhelpful, we realize; suggestions and recommendations for updating this info release would be welcome, as the band themselves don't really know or are being recalcitrant.

in the Quietus interview with K Millions and the guy from White Hills from last year, it was stated that this would have no drums

10 Intelligent questions for Oneida

Yeah, I remember that now. I was kind of hoping it was one of those off-the-cuff things that didn't end up being totally true. Still super psyched for this.

Kind of like hearing King Crimson in their prime would have a record without Fripp playing guitar or something.
or seeing the credit on a led zep album: "John Bonham: Keyboards"
but yeah, like tripmaker said! they can do whatever they want.

Maybe they decided to give Kid a rest on the new Oneida in consideration of his all-drums project, Man Forever?

i trust y'all have seen this: http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=5562
haven't grabbed it yet (requires a donation) but I plan to...

The Shinji Masuko album Woven Music that was just released on Brah is pretty great.

yeah I want to check that out

(can anyone recommend me some DMBQ btw?)

Just to qualify: I thought no drums was a great idea and was really looking forward to some kind of cosmic synth masterpiece but on first listen I found it really airless, monotone and unengaging. That said they're a band who often does stuff that grows on me.

listening to each one teach one right now what an album

...on first listen I found it really airless, monotone and unengaging.

― PG Harpy (Doran), Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

see, thing is, i want good news

listing now to _up with people_ v v loud. d-_-b

I caught the second part of the Japan benefit Ocrop shows they did. It was really a feat of endurance. Three long (40+ min. IIRC) jams that went through various Oneida modes. I watched Kid collapse onto the kit at the end of the final set. Very worth donating and listening to! They are doing another Ocrop. a weekend in June - three consecutive dates. And they will be "presenting" The Ocropolis at ATP in Sept!!! So much Oneida love!

In a recent issue of the L Magazine (Brooklyn free mag) they posed the question: What's Wrong With The Brooklyn Music Scene? The first answer, from a lovely chap named Jason Diamond, "It's something of a crime that Oneida is still around and they aren't looked at as the best and most important band to come out of this whole Brooklyn renaissance of the last decade. I have no affiliation with the band, but I've watched for years as their contemporaries become famous, or far lesser bands jock their sound. That's a shame."

Nuff said!

Jason Diamond OTMFM

They're such a brilliant band. Which is why it might be necessary for me to listen all of Thank Your Parents in order on acid to see if the final part makes more sense like that.

God, I'm still getting my head round Rated O.

Frankly I just don't listen to Oneida as much as I wish I did. They're such a good band, but I have to be in a certain mood and in the right company to really enjoy them. You can't just stick em on in the background while you do the washing up.

ve watched for years as their contemporaries become famous, or far lesser bands jock their sound.
might be true, but it might be at least in part the band's own fault? they don't seem too interested in pursuing a standard indie rock career, at least in terms of touring/promotion, etc. which is good in a lot of ways, but it also means that they're going to be a little less known. i think it'll all even out in the end.

Well, to be fair, I think that they used to tow the typical indie rock line. At this point, dudes are married with children, and it's pretty tough to be a family man living on the road. Hence these marathon Ocropolis sessions, I suppose. I mean, I've seen them ten times in my life but none of those shows were in the last five years. And I've only been to NYC twice.

I think that they are just too extreme/weird/sincere/awesome for mass acceptance.

yeah, probably. i mean, i think it's admirable -- with them, i pretty much know nothing except the records, which is kind of rare these days?

or just rare in general.

That sucks. You should really see them! Let's meet at ATP in sept.

is this ATP UK?

I got an email from Kid Millions today (no braggin) talking about taking his Man Forever project on the road.
I'll admit, I was a tad let down by the prospect of a local show with Kid that isn't Oneida. But he wants to tour the country (world?) and just hook up and jam with local drummers wherever he happens to be. I think that's really awesome. I mean, imagine you're an 18 year old kid in Iowa and you get to sit in with Kid and who knows how many other drummers and make a ridiculous amount of noise. That is pretty special, imo.

ha, yeah that'd be cool.
would love to go to atp one of these days, but i am guessing this year is not the year.

Having been alerted to this, to respond to Doran:

Just to qualify: I thought no drums was a great idea and was really looking forward to some kind of cosmic synth masterpiece but on first listen I found it really airless, monotone and unengaging. That said they're a band who often does stuff that grows on me.

I gotta disagree, this is hooking me from the get-go -- if Neu! could do both the drum overdrive and zone equally well, no reason why any other similarly inclined band can't. I came in with no expectations and find it to be this massive, dramatic howling thing that's all about restraint and sudden, turn-on-a-dime moments. Cryptic as all hell in the best way, and it functions for me on its own and in combination with the larger whole.

Can't wait to hear it.

yeah!

we we we so excited

I may be alone in this but my favourite Oneida album is The Wedding, which is obv not their drummiest moment, so I am still excited for the new one

June 17 – 19
Secret Project Robot
210 Metropolitan Ave
Brooklyn, NY

Three days of catered food, folks, jams in F (probably) and most importantly: family. Specifically, PARENTS: Oneida will perform each release of the Thank Your Parents triptych in their entirety over the course of the three days, beginning in the evening Friday June 17th, and culminating with a debut performance of Absolute II Sunday morning, June 19th.

HOw great is that?!? Now just win a lottery and buy tickets for mom, dad & me (they should thank ME)

Also, I would go to any show that's announced as Secret Project Robot.