Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.

― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:04 (1 week ago) Bookmark

See, before I read anything about them, Salem seemed to me to fit in ostensibly with the death metal/industrial/darkwave continuum (possibly encapsulating horrorcore etc), and in a way they still do. So I don't feel particularly shocked by terms like "rapegaze", when people like VSnares, Throbbing Gristle and countless others also play with irreverant sexual/violent imagery as part of their steez.
I also don't know if my opinion of Salem et al has been sullied by threads like this, but I find it confusing that many people equate them with bad hipster culture - I don't hear or see this in anything other than maybe the odd interview comment and certain sartorial choices. The only "hipster" act I would really relate them to is Crystal Castles. These people just aren't fashionable enough to be hipsters.

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

Maybe they're just juggasters.

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― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:17 AM

(((((((d-_-b)))))))

xposts It reminds me of when people started calling Sunn O))) a hipster band, just because their sixth or seventh (can't check right now) album suddenly got Pitchfork plaudits after years and years of them simply being ignored by anyone outside the metal/noise scene.

except SunnO)))'s big coming out party for their band wasn't at the Fader Fort

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

being a british suburbanite, i only really hear about hipsters through the internet, but i wouldn't deny being one because i'm interested in fashion and music. i think i was behind you on the hipster clusterfuck thread, whiney.

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Whether that's hipster or not, I'm not one to judge; but they look like roadies at an Ugly Kid Joe concert. Is this cool now?

no

(but sadly, yes)

Salem vs. Die Antwoord

I've been listening to the Water EP. I really like this.

Do yourself a favor and avoid the clips of them playing live.

No that was the first thing I heard and I was like "what is this shit" but this is surprisingly enjoyable. It doesn't seem too far for me from say Garlands.

Of all things to compare them to.

Okay that just seems insane to me, if only because there's nothing about Garland that says "dub-influenced low-end"

that's ok I don't expect anyone else to agree

anyway I'm listening to King Night and the comparison seems less apt

"Sick" reminds me of "Bob George" from The Black Album but in a not good way

Okay I listened to all of King Night — they've definitely got a precise idea about their style, but there seems to be little variation within that style. I enjoy the hi-bpm slow tempi with the Dirty South-ish quick snare embellishments and the dreamy vocals but I think the rely too much on the same overdriven synth sound. The Yello rap vocals seem like a huge lapse in consciousness, but it could be that it only seems that way and they are being purposefully tasteless. The title track is probably their best and is genuinely scary in a childlike way — "O Holy Night" always seemed to me a creepy song and I think they understand that.

"Whisper words of wisdom...let it blow me."

Is Salem the rape gaze Beat Happening?

Insofar as Beat Happening is the rape gaze Monkees.

I'm not sure what you're talking about so w/e

Can we just agree not to use "rape gaze" at all anymore?

ILM sans memes would be about three pages long.

sans même

yeah, but ILM sans rape memes wouldn't lose more than half its posts and would be much more pleasant to read

or at least memes that aren't willfully opaque and anyone who hasn't drank the "lol hipsters" almond koolaid will understand

salem more like so lame amirite

c'est-ILM

oh hey keep the rape jokes coming, guys! I can sb all day!

(sorry I haven't sb-d anybody & nobody's used the r*** gaze word in like 23 hours)

wasn't "rock n roll" just black slang for rape gaze anyway?

I mean I was using "fuck-core" in 2006, just saying.

braggin 2006

(But I stole it from ILM).

they look like roadies at an Ugly Kid Joe concert

OTM IRL LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEAyHkFd6F4

treat gaze

razorapple gaze

they look like roadies at an Ugly Kid Joe concert

A+++++

also i get a lil' of jay from jay and silent bob:

http://www.rustylime.com/content_images/clerks_ii_01.jpg

for all of the hoopla this album is actually quite boring and doesn't really incite much of a reaction from me - it's not like terribly bad nor is it some next level shit, and it doesn't even sound particularly "new" or "groundbreaking" or "different" or anything, I'm just not getting it at all guyz.

i'm kind of extremely disappointed that this isn't the worst shit i've ever hear or something, the way everyone has been talking about it

the "worst shit ever" hyperbole is about their live show, not their recorded material

also not necessarily hyperbole

true

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