Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

we definitely need to hear from music critics and message board nerds about what music is 'sexy'

Wait, "rape gaze"? wtf?

^ this

Some crits are bigger than other, J0rdan.

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

^ and this

too bad he's so wrong about mark mcguire, but

tbf, i'm not going to say i really gave McGuire more than 20 seconds of my time

This thread is making me uncertain about my ability to read and understand the English language.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/Salem.jpg

Everything this band is doing is sexier than Lady Gaga.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:04 PM (1 hour ago)

this is my favorite post in this entire thread

want salem to cover shiny happy people.

Rap guy would prolley make a great Fred Schneider.

they should do i'm too sexy by right said fred

lol.

Weingarten is dead right about Demdike Stare. That album is phenomenal.

The two twelve-inches the group has releases this year are so badass.

"On the state of music journalism: the NYTImes Mag review of our Salem party last Tues was written by one of the bartenders at said party."

http://twitter.com/#!/RebeccaSmeyne/status/28515305864
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/salem-the-sound-of-givenchy/?ref=t-magazine

wait, they spent more words on Liv Tyler's outfit than they did on the band and their set

lol

i made yall a mixtape

http://bit.ly/ghostbusting

smh

haw

^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.

― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:04 (1 week ago) Bookmark

See, before I read anything about them, Salem seemed to me to fit in ostensibly with the death metal/industrial/darkwave continuum (possibly encapsulating horrorcore etc), and in a way they still do. So I don't feel particularly shocked by terms like "rapegaze", when people like VSnares, Throbbing Gristle and countless others also play with irreverant sexual/violent imagery as part of their steez.
I also don't know if my opinion of Salem et al has been sullied by threads like this, but I find it confusing that many people equate them with bad hipster culture - I don't hear or see this in anything other than maybe the odd interview comment and certain sartorial choices. The only "hipster" act I would really relate them to is Crystal Castles. These people just aren't fashionable enough to be hipsters.

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

Maybe they're just juggasters.

i made yall a mixtape

http://bit.ly/ghostbusting

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:17 AM

(((((((d-_-b)))))))

xposts It reminds me of when people started calling Sunn O))) a hipster band, just because their sixth or seventh (can't check right now) album suddenly got Pitchfork plaudits after years and years of them simply being ignored by anyone outside the metal/noise scene.

except SunnO)))'s big coming out party for their band wasn't at the Fader Fort

you're one of those posters that doesn't think they're a hipster, right?

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

being a british suburbanite, i only really hear about hipsters through the internet, but i wouldn't deny being one because i'm interested in fashion and music. i think i was behind you on the hipster clusterfuck thread, whiney.

good man, dog latin

PS:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/images/blogimages/2010/03/20/1269103721-p1110980.jpg

Whether that's hipster or not, I'm not one to judge; but they look like roadies at an Ugly Kid Joe concert. Is this cool now?

no

(but sadly, yes)

Salem vs. Die Antwoord

I've been listening to the Water EP. I really like this.

Do yourself a favor and avoid the clips of them playing live.

No that was the first thing I heard and I was like "what is this shit" but this is surprisingly enjoyable. It doesn't seem too far for me from say Garlands.

Of all things to compare them to.

Okay that just seems insane to me, if only because there's nothing about Garland that says "dub-influenced low-end"

that's ok I don't expect anyone else to agree

anyway I'm listening to King Night and the comparison seems less apt

"Sick" reminds me of "Bob George" from The Black Album but in a not good way

Okay I listened to all of King Night — they've definitely got a precise idea about their style, but there seems to be little variation within that style. I enjoy the hi-bpm slow tempi with the Dirty South-ish quick snare embellishments and the dreamy vocals but I think the rely too much on the same overdriven synth sound. The Yello rap vocals seem like a huge lapse in consciousness, but it could be that it only seems that way and they are being purposefully tasteless. The title track is probably their best and is genuinely scary in a childlike way — "O Holy Night" always seemed to me a creepy song and I think they understand that.

"Whisper words of wisdom...let it blow me."

Is Salem the rape gaze Beat Happening?

Insofar as Beat Happening is the rape gaze Monkees.

I'm not sure what you're talking about so w/e

Can we just agree not to use "rape gaze" at all anymore?

ILM sans memes would be about three pages long.

sans même

yeah, but ILM sans rape memes wouldn't lose more than half its posts and would be much more pleasant to read

or at least memes that aren't willfully opaque and anyone who hasn't drank the "lol hipsters" almond koolaid will understand

salem more like so lame amirite