Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

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@ HI DERE: yeah I agree with you! I was enjoying their recorded shit a lot until I saw the Fader deal myself, and then the air just leaked quickly out of the tire. I do think the "EXPOSED!!!" line that's esp. prevalent in this thread is a little - like - rockist? like, you know who else can't really deliver the goods live: lots of people in 2010. "You suck live" is sort of does-not-apply imo, though bands who're gonna suck live might do well to think about whether a one-time payday for a maybe-this'll-work show is worth the potential tradeoff.. I mean, cards on table, I have heavy rockist leanings and think that anybody who can't deliver the goods live is an asshole who should get out of the way for those of us who are willing to put a little blood & sweat into our live show. but I'm too invested in that whole idea to really count as impartial.

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

@ ilxor well you gotta admit markers has probably got a tattoo of the Fader Fort screencap at this point

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

as an ardent defender of the recorded music of taylor swift, i haven't made any judgments of salem based on that performance, aside from lols & also saying that the performance itself is pretty much racist

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

to be fair you have never been a homeless prostitute, as far as i know

YOU DON'T KNOW MY LIFE

(although yeah, never been a homeless prostitute)

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

you know, after watching that FADER performance and then going back to the recorded version of "Tent", I have no idea what the "oh I don't hear that as them aping a black dialect, you people are making some shady assumptions" were smoking upthread

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

thing is these guys didn't even coming off like they were trying for that $$$ and failing, what's so funny about out it is how fucking zonked, indifferent and clueless they look

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

@ ilxor well you gotta admit markers has probably got a tattoo of the Fader Fort screencap at this point

Maybe -- iirc, you're assuming there's room after the full-torso Tapes N Tapes tat?

as an ardent defender of the recorded music of taylor swift, i haven't made any judgments of salem based on that performance

Except that ummmmmmmm, oh yeah!, Taylor Swift is AWESOME LIVE and if you're judging based on YouTube vids and not an actual live performance then you're not *really* judging properly imho.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

well i'm judging from the bunch of times that i've seen her perform on tv and her singing is usually terrible

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're judging based on YouTube vids TV spots and not an actual live performance then you're not *really* judging properly imho.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

well i guess i'll just retire from this thread until both taylor & salem both swing around mid missouri

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

J0rdan u know that only the realest of the real show up in central MO

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

that's true!

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

funny enough t swift's social conservatism gets on my nerves more than this dude's occasional "she say i'm down wih huh" schtick.

goole, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

is t swift a baby mama grizzly or something?

da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

self-righteous twentysomething girls vs. hipster juggalos: which are worse?

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

poll

j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

jk

j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

J0rdan u know that only the realest of the real show up in central MO

Hah, let's just say I was gonna front but then looked up recent tour dates and now I have to stfu.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

you know, after watching that FADER performance and then going back to the recorded version of "Tent", I have no idea what the "oh I don't hear that as them aping a black dialect, you people are making some shady assumptions" were smoking upthread

I guess it just didn't rankle...living in decaying, lower-class Michigan (ie somewhat close to where these guys are from), i've known a LOOOOOOOOT of drug-addled white dunderheads that act like they're trying to be black. Sometimes they don't even have to be into ICP.

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I tell you what, if this album is in fact made by bottom-feeding crackhead juggalos, then I'm even more impressed than before...

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

that this stage is sponsored by one of the last successful magazines standing & a brand with worldwide name recognition & permanent cache

ceut way to say "a branding company that happens to have a magazine"

rusko p. coltrane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think levi's owns FADER

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Fader is a marketing company. You think they make their money selling bucketloads of magazines with Trash Talk on the cover?

rusko p. coltrane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm saying that you're misreading j0hn's sentence

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ceut way to say "a branding company that happens to have a magazine"

Whiney you & I are on the same HxCx side of the fence I thought -- your lookout probably requires you to know which magazines are connected with which companies etc but i assure you that in my heart it's 1993 and I read MRR and there's only 1 company anyway so why would I parse the connections, this ain't Vanity Fair

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder what they'll change their name to if one of the umpteen other bands named Salem sends a cease & desist

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I vote for "Salem Alaikum"

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Salem 66 & Cosloy plotting their revenge from the original Homestead office, now a McDonald's in Uniontown

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I asked Gerard to verify and he said "Salem, I hardly know em"

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Salem Jr.
Salem From Above 1979
Salem UK
Bottom Feeding Hipster Juggalo Krew

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

120 Days Of Salem

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Hide The Salemy

da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Rum, Salemy, and the Lash

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

missing the days when "they sucked live" was a valid reason to dislike a band

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

This Last Night in Salem

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

if they do a live album it should be called "salem if ya got 'em"

da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

The Internet kind of ruined music for me...

― search: wolf-kidult man (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:03 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

(xp to cad)

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

If I was them, I'd call it Playing To Our Strengths

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

If I was them, I'd call it Playing To Our Strengths

― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:51 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg lock thread.

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

anybody here who would not be willing throw the dice & maybe end up looking like something of an asshole for many thousands of dollars can cast the first stone, but I'm guessing that if I had a lie detector test and a stack of hundreds that climbed up past ankle level, most of us here would be "where do I bust out the shitty rap?" Salem sucked because they don't really know what they're doing yet & hadn't really thought about playing outside of their element. In about a year they'll sound live like they sound on record & the only person who'll remember the Fader Fort performance will be markers.

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

high fucking five

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll remember the fader performance because that shit was hilarious

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

if anything we might be nostalgic for when their vision of a royal trux clown posse was in its nascent state

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

royal trux clown posse

I love you forever

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I submit this thread for the now inevitable Most Boring Thread About A Band You Really Like, Like You Stop Even Checking It For New Answers After A While Poll

My copy of the LP finally arrived today (pre-ordered on 8/24). Came with a bonus limited single thing. Anyone heard this?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 14 October 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

goose belly

stev23, Thursday, 14 October 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

@ ilxor well you gotta admit markers has probably got a tattoo of the Fader Fort screencap at this point

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:53 PM

<3

markers, Thursday, 14 October 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Came with a bonus limited single thing. Anyone heard this?

no, fuk u

mine only came with a record

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, if it's any consolation, I ordered this back in August and just got it today.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Big news this morning, via CNN:

World rejoices rescue of 33 music fans, but daunting tasks await

Austin, Texas (CNN) -- After 69 days and a cost as high as $20 million, 33 music fans have finally been extracted from the bowels of a Salem live performance. To roaring applause, ILX President Tom Ew1ng placed a metal cap on top of the Fader Fort entrance early Thursday morning -- and marked the end of a rescue operation that captivated the globe.

But in a way, the story is just beginning -- both for the fans, who now must live with their new status as indie heroes and the spotlight that comes with it, and the Internet, whose attention turns to protecting listeners' safety.

"I hope this will never happen again," said music critic Whiney G. Weingarten, the last listener out of the Fader Fort, as underrated aerosmith albums i have loved embraced him.

"I am so proud of what you have done," BIG HOOS told the president. "Thank you to all the rescuers, to all of ILX, to everyone. I am so proud to be free."

"We had hope that someday we would be rescued," markers said.

Rescue worker Ned Raggett, the first human being to descend in a custom-made soundproof capsule to reach the fans, was the last of six rescuers to emerge. He waved and bowed before a SXSW camera before climbing into the capsule for the last time.

Colleagues and onlookers cheered as Raggett surfaced, with lex pretend quipping, "Did you leave everything in order in there? Are the beds made? You didn't turn off the light."

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link


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