Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

does the lex like we are the world? (on the same label as salem)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrnTY9_KMQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLFzqlz4hsM&feature=related

jesus, the IAMSOUND roster is like across the board shit

* The Black Ghosts
* Suckers
* Telepathe
* Little Boots
* Sunny Day Sets Fire
* Cut Off Your Hands
* Florence and the Machine
* Get Shakes
* Men Women & Children
* Nico Vega
* The Slips
* Fool's Gold
* thecocknbullkid
* SALEM

Actually, I'll fuck with a little Florence/Machine and Telepathe, but Suckers and Little Boots are like ughhhhhhh. And Fool's Gold is zzzzz. And fuck whatever "thecocknbullkid" is

you've hEARD all those people? no wonder you are so sad about salem.

* Sunny Day Sets Fire
* Cut Off Your Hands
* thecocknbullkid

these guys are great

actually, i'm on thecocknbullkid's MySpace and this is kinda aight. I take it back!

you've hEARD all those people? no wonder you are so sad about salem.

i'm better now.

Oh yeah, the CPAP, it cured that too?

"clay stones" is goth pilobolus. "not in death" is goth mark morris.

no, after i started that thread i got someone to let me write a column about new experimental music. worked like a charm. i am a part of the world again.

good to hear it

* Sunny Day Sets Fire

Sunny Day Real Estate + Boy Sets Fire = ...

not.. exactly

Ah... then worse, as I expected.

ILX field trip to Salem, MA this Halloween!

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

doom metal band that played in my store the other night had a day off on their tour and they were heading to salem for a day trip!

My beef with bands like Salem and most any other band that thinks smoking crack is the ultimate display of intellectual prowess, is that they're totally silly and they don't even know it. They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

"my" finest moment

telepathe are worse than salem

They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

uh

I didn't say it, markers did...!

O_O

and what, exactly, is he saying?

middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents

maybe these unfortunate middle class white kids are still being spanked.

Everspank is my nu electro-grunge band.

What are your songs in this band?

we sound like a mix of old sleeping bag record 12 inches and alice in chains. our first single is called "mud donor" and it features guest appearances by 7 Year Bitch vocalist Selene Vigil and Toure Embden a.k.a. MC Tee of Mantronix fame.

i'm kinda mystified by the extreme hatred leveled at this band from certain quarters. they've got a nice sound, doomy and dreamy in equal measure, and i can see how they'd appeal to a broad cross section of music fans. i don't think there's anything massively groundbreaking in what they're doing (aside from introducing vampire goth and southern rap to one another), but so what? don't see how they're any more "shallow" than most pop bands/artists.

My beef with bands like Salem and most any other band that thinks smoking crack is the ultimate display of intellectual prowess, is that they're totally silly and they don't even know it. They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

add 1 to chorus of uh

omg everspank

I like trapdoor but don't really care for the overblown mbv via m83 sound no matter how good the branding

and you know, i like MBV/M83/Ulrich Schnauss/Tim Hecker stuff too and i really don't think these guys even get the shoegaze right. Like all their "omg hueg drones" sound weak as fuck, lo-fi and underdeveloped to my ears.

see, that's the stuff i think they do pretty damn well. prefer them to most m83, tbh, cuz there's something intriguing about their rough edges and cryptic bullshit. at least for the moment. plus they're doing more of their own connect-the-dots work.

rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism

deej this doesn't even make sense, it's totally ad hominem. do you really think i defend all synth-based bands regardless? pay more attention if so.

this band is terrible

contenderizer's got nothin on this dude

wait lol i agree mostly with that piece i guess
never mind

add 1 to chorus of uh

― miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer)

fyi that wasn't actually a post I made

contenderizer's got nothin on this dude

well, that's a really interesting piece full of good stuff to unpack, thread's probably good for another 200 posts now - I know at least one thread regular who'll be ecstatic about that

fyi that wasn't actually a post I made

― markers

You can never take back a post markers!! What's posted is posted! O_O

omg

¯\(°_o)/¯

like, let's start here --

Well, it’s not. The slowed down vocals do not only have the effect of bringing the vocalist’s voice down to stoned crawl, they make the white performer sound black.

&

the problematic, conscious “hip-hop” pronunciations underneath that vocal effect

the latter complaint I find as troubling as the piece's author, and along with what he goes on to unpack I think it forms a pretty right-on critique of something nasty in salem's schtick. the former assertion - that slowed-down vocals "make the white performer sound black" - strikes me as both bizarre and somewhat questionable in itself. long-in-the-tooth dudes like yrs truly, when he was just a toddling underrated aerosmith, used to sit on the floors of our bedrooms playing 45s at 16 rpm and reveling in the transgression of controlling the sound, changing it, reshaping it, and just speaking for myself, there was exactly zero "this sounds black now" quality to my listening, because "black" doesn't mean "sounds like a 45 at 16." it's unquestionable that screw music stakes a big claim on slowed-down vocals, but the notion that anybody, post-screw, who slows down their vocals now "sounds black" strikes me as kinda...like...wha? you really mean that? basically my essentialism radar goes up

I think I would have really gotten into Salem had I not seen that horrific video of the awful live performance they did that made Wavves look like meticulous connoisseurs of the art of stagecraft. As it stands, they seem to be taking a musical idea I find really, really compelling and shoving it about as far up their asses as it can possibly go.

Only they don’t. The group really show their asses in this XLR8R interview. Salem’s Jack Donoghue calls footwork wunderkind DJ Nate’s music “smart,” but adds, “but I don’t think he’s trying to be clever.” DJ Nate is most certainly trying to be clever. That’s what sample-based dance music like footwork is all about: consciously flipping the weirdest, funniest, most dope sample in the coolest, smartest way possible. Heather Marlatt, photographed for the magazine in cornrows, describes her interest in “Juggalos” but not the Insane Clown Posse’s music, which seems the inverse of Salem’s interest in black music: who cares about the people, it’s all about the sounds, man.

I might be wrong (the 'indie-kids who have little knowledge of screw music' epithet applies directly to me) but to me this paragraph seems barely relevant, and only exposes the extent to which the author of this piece has a personal stake in showing Salem in the most negative light possible.

really not getting this clusterfuck here - i do see the screw stylings but this is really at heart goth/industrial music

^+drawl's point, counterpoint is he's ostensibly slowing down his vocals to sound screwed, not black. Is screwed only authentic-if-made-by/available-to black people? Is he not allowed to traffic in this genre because he's white? Author assumes use of "bitch" and other stereotypical hip-hop lingo is "black" *cough* eminem is on 60 minutes this week if u check yr listings. Hang ups are squarely the author's, not S A L E M's.

i think it has something to do with the fact that he's screwing and saying bitch underneath a fake Texas patois. Which "screwed vocal" bands like Fever Ray don't exactly do

even Eminem never put on a fucking accent

remember when Al Jourgensen used to have a British accent??