Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

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Whiney killin' it in this thread.

Yeah, that time he told somebody who disagreed with him to "eat me" was classic.

Evan R, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Was obviously referring to the Salem insta-mashup posted 10 minutes prior.

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a kneejerk "yeah but you like sleigh bells" reaction to every whiney post in this thread

i detest pretty much every indie hype act of 2010 but salem are basically acceptable to me. i can well believe they're horrendous live but who cares about that.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

sleigh bells at least have a creative aesthetic

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"jangly indie mess w/bad singing" is no more creative an aesthetic than "screwy synths turned up to 100"

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

at least salem are effective in a basic kind of way when they get their sound right (whoever the post-gig dj was played "king night" tonight (after "whip my hair" o_0 ) - it sounded good! and big!)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

bring back friendly ilxor imo, we have enough whinyeasayers to fill a tollbooth & that's plenty

drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

haha lex defending this is basically the essence of my least favorite lex characteristics

trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism

trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

oh great the gang's all back again

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism
--trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej)

Screwming post

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

there's some weight to describing Salem as "shallow" and "obvious" but reducing this album to shitty hip-hop for indie kids is tantamount to admission of deafness imo

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 that the Wikipedia entry "Rockism" cites Momus

markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah we really needed a more elegant name for relativism. Thank u, "rockism".

cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like the salem album was really easy to like when i first heard it. i didn't have to struggle with it. it just sounded cool to me. i didn't know anything about them. I STILL don't know much about them. i doubt i would go see them live if i had the chance. there is way better stuff to spend money on. i think druggy goth + beats is something that just agrees with me. i don't listen to anything like this though, so i'm not burnt out on hyped bloggy kid stuff. i'm just thankful to get a cd in the mail that i can listen to more than once. and i did think about, um, music and stuff when i was listening to it. it's a rock critic-y kind of record. and thinking is good, right?

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

bring back friendly ilxor imo, we have enough whinyeasayers to fill a tollbooth & that's plenty

Who, me??

O_O

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

does the lex like we are the world? (on the same label as salem)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrnTY9_KMQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLFzqlz4hsM&feature=related

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus, the IAMSOUND roster is like across the board shit

* The Black Ghosts
* Suckers
* Telepathe
* Little Boots
* Sunny Day Sets Fire
* Cut Off Your Hands
* Florence and the Machine
* Get Shakes
* Men Women & Children
* Nico Vega
* The Slips
* Fool's Gold
* thecocknbullkid
* SALEM

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, I'll fuck with a little Florence/Machine and Telepathe, but Suckers and Little Boots are like ughhhhhhh. And Fool's Gold is zzzzz. And fuck whatever "thecocknbullkid" is

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

you've hEARD all those people? no wonder you are so sad about salem.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

* Sunny Day Sets Fire
* Cut Off Your Hands
* thecocknbullkid

these guys are great

evian fatigue (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, i'm on thecocknbullkid's MySpace and this is kinda aight. I take it back!

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

you've hEARD all those people? no wonder you are so sad about salem.

Skot, I recently took solace from your thread 2008: The Year I Officially Lost My Edge!

my strange quest for maynesonge (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm better now.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, the CPAP, it cured that too?

my strange quest for maynesonge (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"clay stones" is goth pilobolus. "not in death" is goth mark morris.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

no, after i started that thread i got someone to let me write a column about new experimental music. worked like a charm. i am a part of the world again.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

good to hear it

my strange quest for maynesonge (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

* Sunny Day Sets Fire

Sunny Day Real Estate + Boy Sets Fire = ...

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

not.. exactly

evian fatigue (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah... then worse, as I expected.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

ILX field trip to Salem, MA this Halloween!

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

doom metal band that played in my store the other night had a day off on their tour and they were heading to salem for a day trip!

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

My beef with bands like Salem and most any other band that thinks smoking crack is the ultimate display of intellectual prowess, is that they're totally silly and they don't even know it. They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"my" finest moment

markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

telepathe are worse than salem

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

uh

truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't say it, markers did...!

O_O

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

and what, exactly, is he saying?

middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe these unfortunate middle class white kids are still being spanked.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Everspank is my nu electro-grunge band.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

What are your songs in this band?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

we sound like a mix of old sleeping bag record 12 inches and alice in chains. our first single is called "mud donor" and it features guest appearances by 7 Year Bitch vocalist Selene Vigil and Toure Embden a.k.a. MC Tee of Mantronix fame.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm kinda mystified by the extreme hatred leveled at this band from certain quarters. they've got a nice sound, doomy and dreamy in equal measure, and i can see how they'd appeal to a broad cross section of music fans. i don't think there's anything massively groundbreaking in what they're doing (aside from introducing vampire goth and southern rap to one another), but so what? don't see how they're any more "shallow" than most pop bands/artists.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

My beef with bands like Salem and most any other band that thinks smoking crack is the ultimate display of intellectual prowess, is that they're totally silly and they don't even know it. They seriously believe that teenage angst is a new concept and that if they use the words "smoke" and "cock" enough, they will "connect" with all the unfortunate middle class white kids who were ever spanked by their parents or picked last for water polo.

― markers, Friday, October 8, 2010 2:23 PM (3 days ago)

add 1 to chorus of uh

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

omg everspank

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I like trapdoor but don't really care for the overblown mbv via m83 sound no matter how good the branding

laser precise purpose maker era, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

and you know, i like MBV/M83/Ulrich Schnauss/Tim Hecker stuff too and i really don't think these guys even get the shoegaze right. Like all their "omg hueg drones" sound weak as fuck, lo-fi and underdeveloped to my ears.

i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

see, that's the stuff i think they do pretty damn well. prefer them to most m83, tbh, cuz there's something intriguing about their rough edges and cryptic bullshit. at least for the moment. plus they're doing more of their own connect-the-dots work.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link

rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism

deej this doesn't even make sense, it's totally ad hominem. do you really think i defend all synth-based bands regardless? pay more attention if so.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link


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