and dogg latin, to respond to your question, i think Salem can stumble across Boards Of Canada stuff, but it's not because they're sitting down with a laptop and being sound alchemists; its because dumb idiots who accidentally found an ambient preset in between smoking their cigarettes and staring blindly at their gear [see attached video]
― like the G6 summit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
wouldn't 'white crunk' be like sevendust or something
― goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i love that Boards Of Canada song where dude is like all
SHE SAY I DOW WIH HUH I SAY BITCH YOU ALLLOOOOONNNNEEEE
― like the G6 summit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
no never mind, i take that back, i'm not getting into this
xp
― goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, (ftr, I didn't wiki "screw music", it's not something I'm heavily into, but I am familiar with it) - Salem are influenced by screw, this is apparent. They are not screw though. Hell, I don't even believe they're hiphop. I'm just saying, there are many more things going on in King Night than simply a bunch of white guys making bad screw music. And while your post about BoC is also being facetious, it's missing the point too.
"making screw", LOL!
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
there are many more things going on in King Night than simply a bunch of white guys making bad screw music
hahah, this is basically where we're gonna disagree, so we should probably let some other people have the floor
― like the G6 summit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
there is really nothing more going on in King Night than simply a bunch of white guys making bad screw music -- but it turned out kind of interesting!
― goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"dumb idiots who accidentally found an ambient preset in between smoking their cigarettes and staring blindly at their gear" is the majority of punky/new-wave/industrial electronic music anyway. Is it not acceptable to say that comparing Salem to just Screw is the same as comparing them to Cabaret Voltaire or whoever?
xpost, haha, sure thing Whiney - I'm not going to defend this band anymore - it's an okay album, but just okay.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
AFA screw is concerned though, Whiney what should I check out, as I'm interested?
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i love that Boards Of Canada song where dude is like allSHE SAY I DOW WIH HUH I SAY BITCH YOU ALLLOOOOONNNNEEEE
loooooooool A+
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
doglat,
My personal fave is David Banner's Mississippi: The Album screwed and chopped version, which had a commercial release. Obviously DJ Screw is the king of this stuff, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna pretend to be all Byron Coley about his 200+ releases, hahaha.
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I like screwed and chopped music. I find the songs on the Salem album where the guy raps painful in almost every way.I love many of the songs on the Salem album (the guy only raps on two of them, right?) - nobody would be talking about screw if the album was all like Redlights and Frost.
― She Got the Shakes, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i54.tinypic.com/2nltpiu.gif
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
did you make that?
― goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
;-)
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
^TTG
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
tTG Tissue Transglutaminase TTG Telltale Games (website) TTG Time-To-Go TTG TiVo To Go TTG The Tech Guy TTG Tonalite-Trondhjemite-Granodiorite TTG Tea Tree Gully (South Australia) TTG Tom Tom Go (satellite navigation product) TTG Tunnel Terminating Gateway TTG TechTeam Global, Inc (Southfield, Michigan) TTG Thanks To God TTG Technical Training Group (US Air Force) TTG Transportation Terminal Group TTG Technical Task Group TTG Top-Turret Gunner TTG Thomson Travel Group PLC TTG Tripod Technology Group, Inc TTG Twin Turbo Gallardo (automobile) TTG The Timothy Generation (band) TTG Threat Timing Generator TTG Technology Transfer Grant TTG Tech Team Global (Southfield, MI) TTG Trainer Test Group TTG The Tech Game (online gaming community) TTG Transmission Time Group TTG Turkish Trade Guide TTG Training Target Graphic TTG Technical Training Graduate TTG Transuranium Technical Group TTG Triton Technology Group TTG The Time Garden (blog) TTG Tax Technology Group TTG The Tile Guy (Austin, TX )
i'm guessing "thanks to god"?, but not ruling out "the tile guy" or "turkish trade guide."
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT9C1GaBoDw
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
ah. ty.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
so, i've been listening to this stuff a lot b/c...well, i read XLR8R's interview on the toilet the other day (i am a staff writer for them), and i was like, 'i've never really given their recordings a chance after that terrible show in brooklyn last january.' i like Redlights, but i really don't understand how people could like the album or anything else by them. yeah, it's kind of an original mashing of several sounds, but it is so TOTALLY FUCKING BORING and studied in its cynicism that i find it somewhat terrifying that they're '''''popular'''''.
― Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i think cynical is the right word. Like if you watch the Fader Fort videos, this is literally a band with no passion, no ability, no drive and no ideas. They are an IDEA of a band more than a band. There's nothing to the music and were marketed and elevated solely on "hipster cool" to the pitchfork gen the same way that "party cool" is marketed to Ke$ha fans. I'm sincerely fucking embarrassed for 20somethings that chose this over emocore.
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
they're playing santos next week, I think i'm gonna go just becaause. never heard anything by them, should i listen first or let their LIVE SHOW be my FIRST IMPRESSION
― Pitchfork.com, a music recommendation Web site (The Brainwasher), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
is literally a band with no . . . ideas.
not sure how this can be true, if in fact, this band's sound is a "unique mashup of the basic elements of other genres." see, e.g., comments upthread. to be clear, that doesn't mean they're good, but it means they have ideas, or at least one noteworthy idea.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://bit.ly/bQCqTK
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
trust me, i saw them at Glasslands last january and it was fucking abysmal.
then, three days later, i saw Teengirl Fantasy, Light Asylum, and Blondes play at Monster Island a few blocks away, and it was fucking awesome.
just sayin-- there are a lot of groups out there who are actually putting effort and energy into their sound.
― Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Brainwasher that would be a rad experiment, plz report back
― toldjah boy, salem (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
xp to instant salem mashup
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if part of salem's appeal is that their one idea IS so easily to replicate.
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Whiney killin' it in this thread.
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
our choices are salem or emocore now? shit.
― goole, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that time he told somebody who disagreed with him to "eat me" was classic.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Was obviously referring to the Salem insta-mashup posted 10 minutes prior.
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i have a kneejerk "yeah but you like sleigh bells" reaction to every whiney post in this thread
i detest pretty much every indie hype act of 2010 but salem are basically acceptable to me. i can well believe they're horrendous live but who cares about that.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
sleigh bells at least have a creative aesthetic
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"jangly indie mess w/bad singing" is no more creative an aesthetic than "screwy synths turned up to 100"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
at least salem are effective in a basic kind of way when they get their sound right (whoever the post-gig dj was played "king night" tonight (after "whip my hair" o_0 ) - it sounded good! and big!)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
bring back friendly ilxor imo, we have enough whinyeasayers to fill a tollbooth & that's plenty
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
haha lex defending this is basically the essence of my least favorite lex characteristics
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism
oh great the gang's all back again
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
rockism redrawn with synths in place of guitars and advertised as popism --trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej)
Screwming post
― i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
there's some weight to describing Salem as "shallow" and "obvious" but reducing this album to shitty hip-hop for indie kids is tantamount to admission of deafness imo
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 that the Wikipedia entry "Rockism" cites Momus
― markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah we really needed a more elegant name for relativism. Thank u, "rockism".
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like the salem album was really easy to like when i first heard it. i didn't have to struggle with it. it just sounded cool to me. i didn't know anything about them. I STILL don't know much about them. i doubt i would go see them live if i had the chance. there is way better stuff to spend money on. i think druggy goth + beats is something that just agrees with me. i don't listen to anything like this though, so i'm not burnt out on hyped bloggy kid stuff. i'm just thankful to get a cd in the mail that i can listen to more than once. and i did think about, um, music and stuff when i was listening to it. it's a rock critic-y kind of record. and thinking is good, right?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Who, me??
O_O
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
does the lex like we are the world? (on the same label as salem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrnTY9_KMQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLFzqlz4hsM&feature=related
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
jesus, the IAMSOUND roster is like across the board shit
* The Black Ghosts * Suckers * Telepathe * Little Boots * Sunny Day Sets Fire * Cut Off Your Hands * Florence and the Machine * Get Shakes * Men Women & Children * Nico Vega * The Slips * Fool's Gold * thecocknbullkid * SALEM
― i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, I'll fuck with a little Florence/Machine and Telepathe, but Suckers and Little Boots are like ughhhhhhh. And Fool's Gold is zzzzz. And fuck whatever "thecocknbullkid" is
― i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
you've hEARD all those people? no wonder you are so sad about salem.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link