Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

S A L E M is what RATATAT should have evolved into.

bought the record and haven't listened to it all the way through, but I'm gonna guess P4k goes w/ an 8.4 BNM

I'm going to call a 6.4 from P4k.

S A L E M is what RATATAT should have evolved into.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, October 5, 2010 8:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sleigh Bells is what Ratatat should have evolved into.

RATATAT should have evolved

Tbh, I think we could just leave it at that.

Okay, so I'm finally actually listening to this and I'm now wishing I hadn't had my first experience with the band be that laughable Fader Fort thing. Because this is actually pretty interesting stuff. I won't call it brilliant or anything, but there is a distinct vibe that I haven't really heard explored in this way before. I'm certainly enjoying the listen, but I could live without the dude. I like the tracks with the female vocals as the focus much more.

Like, "Frost" = great, "Trapdoor" = meh.

o shit u droppin mehbombs

pretty good review: http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/6007

pretty shit review: http://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/salem-king-knight

could have been better were I not given such a tight word limit.

i like that review, no need for it to be longer

Dusted review was pretty good except for the part where he suggests that a certain synth sound on the title track was an explicit reference to a Hipster Runoff post

looooooooooooooool

Dusted review is good when it gets going. First three pars are just pointless. No one needs a running commentary on the commentary on the commentary in a review. Just tell us something interesting about the record. (Which he does. Shame he didn't spend more of the text getting to the business in hand.)

dusted reviews reviews.

Just tell us something interesting about the record.

literally 90% of online reviews fail to do this

90% of online reviews aren't read by people who don't work for said publication

unless we're talking about Pitchfork

Dusted seems like a good idea. I'd never heard of it before.

Dusted has been doing good stuff for a long time. Love some of the old Listed features:
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/category/5

yeah, dusted's good.

Seem to remember the Comets on Fire one being esp. great xp

yeah dusted has been quietly interesting for years (daily content and no one ever talks about it)

dusted reviews a much wider scope of titles than p4k, which i appreciate (don't get me wrong; i like p4k a lot, but dusted exposes me to a lot of title i wouldn't notice otherwise).

actually, and i guess this is for another thread, but p4k published a piece recently on the best online music stores; the websites for those stores also introduced me to titles that i wouldn't see otherwise.

haven't been reading The Out Door as much as I should, tbh. thx for the link Daniel

More like S E L L E M right guys.

i think dusted has upped the quality of their reviews lately, too.

Perhaps stating the blindingly obvious for some of you, but take the guy's vocals off of this thing and it automatically becomes 100% more enjoyable to hear.

i vastly prefer his inept singing to his inept rapping. i guess that's only on hound and killer. the latter has this totally 90s feel to it for me. like, it could be a stabbing westward track or something, ha.

i want to download "yes, i smoke crack" but from a site that isn't shady!!! help ple

All three of them are vocalists. John Holland sings, Heather Marlatt sings, Jack Donoghue raps.

I wonder if they will collect the singles and EPs, which I think are much more diverse sounding (and feature no rapping). There's:

Yes I Smoke Crack EP
Water EP
Ohk/Sweat 7"
Frost/Legend 7"
Babydaddy 7" (split with Tanlines)

Plus a few more old demos (and lots of remixes) that never were for sale commercially

Dusted seems like a good idea. I'd never heard of it before.

― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, October 6, 2010 1:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Dusted has some fantastic writing, and their staff seems to have eclectic though not arbitrary or downright weird taste. One of the site's writers, Jennifer Kelly, is usually excellent. For example:
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/5680

Note that that review came out two weeks before Pitchfork's, which bring to mind another thing about that site: they review the most hyped albums a couple days before they come out, not two weeks later.

i like dusted and i hate almost everything on the internet. i think i actually emailed them once about possibly writing reviews, but they never got back to me. which, actually, just proves that they have high standards and are to be applauded.

or wait i think it was actually just ONE specific record that i wanted to review and i couldn't think of anyone else who would let me review it. still, its the only time i ever emailed an online site so that must mean that i like them.

Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site. I highly recommend sifting through their "Listed" features, there are some really cool and interesting musicians (and non-musicians here and there) roped in for it. I worry that burnout will happen for Dusted, somewhat akin to Stylus, as I just don't see how all those folks can keep up the level of quality without any compensation (surely noone at Dusted is getting paid? no adds etc.)

Of course, wrong thread for this. Surprised so many people are actually reviewing this Salem record TBH.

Dusted's been around for at least eight years so I don't know why it wouldn't keep going for a while

Yeah, I hope so. It is a beacon of low-key integrity for me at least.

The "weekly" Listed feature hasn't been updated since August.

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

"Listed" is still worth sifting through, though. Gems like Chris Corsano and Tom Smith abound. As far as tinymixtapes goes, to each his own. I read it as well, but would give it up before Dusted. Don't look at Dusted really as competing with tinymixtapes or P4K, somewhat different beast to me (i.e., not jokey).

These days I check Dusted more often than I do Pitchfork (or any other reviews site), there's always some great-sounding release that I had never heard of before.

Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site.

you're right; it should. Dusted Magazine -- C/D

Yeah, sorry about derailing this thread. I promptly remove myself ...

no no. nothing wrong with tangents on threads at all. this one is a lively discussion, actually.

Hmmm, perhaps just me feeling guilty. There are people who care about Salem, so I don't want to put 40 comments in the way of their conversation. I moved myself to that Dusted thread personally.

Last thought: agree with seandalai, Dusted has a good track record with me. They don't rep for much that leaves me completely cold, and I have found some great stuff through them.

I liked that first Bumblebeez album, would I like this?

listening to title track. what the hell is that Dusted reviewer on about? Classical music chestnut over rap beats, pretty sure Dan The Automator did this a hundred times in the late 90s.

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable

Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.