Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

I like that the last track on the album is a rip off When You Were Young by the Killers

Which? Salem or Swans? Because I can assure you with absolute certainty that M Gira has never heard The Killers

He prefers Brandon Flowers solo material.

Sorry, meant Salem.

Well, the clue's in the track title.

The first song is actually, 'O Holy Night' the hymn. Or an interpolation...

I remember years ago reviewing a Parts + Labor album for a small website and giving it a really good review.

― Duran (Doran), Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:14 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Stay Afraid and Mapmaker are so goddamn good, and no one fucking paid them the time of day.

As far as Salem's live mishaps, they're not forgivable, but they're certainly understandable. So many bands try to get their name out by performing live around town for a few years and then catching a break opening for a bigger band on a national tour. Salem was 'discovered' before they'd ever done a live show. From what they've told me, they've maybe played like two-dozen live shows ever.

The fact of the matter is, they still blow live because they're all pretty young and they do the majority of their recording on shit equipment in shit places. They have no experience. I don't know if this is common knowledge but the guy rapping in those videos also makes the beats, and until like a couple months ago, he was doing them all in GarageBand (!).

They may never figure out their live act, but if the album is good. What they are going to have big problems with is their next record. How do you reinvent yourself after you've created a genre?

American band, Salem, are all set to head over to the UK this November, for their first ever live UK shows. The trio will be here touring their debut album, the brilliant King Night, which is released on 27th September.

Tour Dates:

November
24 – London, Shoreditch Church
26 – Manchester, Islington Mill
27 – Leeds, Nation of Shopkeepers
29 – Nottingham, Bodega
30 – Bristol, Thekla

salem suxx, lol @ doran

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liked your review, doran. i want this disc (i'm sure their live show is as vile as those above say, and for that reason, i'm bypassing the youtube clips). your comment about swans is kind of pushing me in the direction of downloading that disc, too.

I've listened to a couple of the new Swans tracks and I don't hear the similarities at all. Unless it's another Swans I'm listening to.

No. I mean, they don't *sound* anything like each other but they have a very similar attitude in a weird kind of way. The similarities are very lateral to be honest. I think they both have a way of looking at very horrific, personal things and then finding something almost majestic or splendid in them. I don't think either band are gothic (play acting).

It's not a useful comparison, just an interesting one from my point of view.

hooray! a thread where whiney, deej, & j0rdan can all shit on goths!

(sorry Doran I didn't mean to call them/you goth. I'm not goth either.)

what does this have to do with goths?

if anything we're saying that some goths (three 6 mafia) make better music than other goths (salem)

3-6 is pretty awesome, but they the whole 4AD thing that Salem is also tapping into...I think they're still working out the ideas, but I really like Salem a lot.

'but they lack the whole 4AD thing'

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love this:

God’s fingerprints cannot be found in creation. Philosophy is dead. We live as we die, with no control and little understanding suspended in a void near the dying ember of some cataclysmic accident we have no hope of comprehending. But look on the bright side: what a majestic vantage point we’ve been given.

loved parts & labor, too. they may have gone unloved in the grand scheme, but they had their fans hereabouts.

lol @ this thread being

whiney shits on salem -> doran defends salem -> more people shit on salem -> doran defends salem and posts his nme review -> doran big ups parts + labor

this revive at least

i can't really imagine it going any other way

I didn't post my NME review. I've never posted one of my own reviews here. Actually I have in the metal end of year lists a few times but nowhere else.

And look up thread, there are about a million posters describing them as goth. And... *takes deep breath*... I don't think they're goth in the same way I don't think Joy Division or Swans are goth.

And if you don't get why I brought up Parts + Labor, I really can't help you. I mean it's such an easy, easy concept to grasp.

I also don't care if people call me a goth. I was a full-on mega goth when I was 15 in the mid 80s. I loved it for about 18 months. Until Fields Of The Nephelim turned up and I had a Damascene reconversion to being a common or garden long-hair.

I meant goth compared to, like, DJ Skrew, though I love the idea of 3-6 being goth...

Three Six Mafia are NWOBHM.

And if you don't get why I brought up Parts + Labor, I really can't help you. I mean it's such an easy, easy concept to grasp.

it's like the opposite of what miccio does to j0hn on every thread

lol @ this thrad

thread

it's like the opposite of what miccio does to j0hn on every thread

should probably just keep my trap shut, but for the record, I'm pretty sure I've only brought up a certain band twice on ILX. once when its singer was giving me shit for not liking an article by sfj he couldn't bother to read himself, once when the guy couldn't understand why everyone didn't share his "you must respect all megasuccessful songwriters" sentiment. and however impolitic or unnecessary it was to suggest how occupation could influence an argumentative stance (1st time was an annoyed, defensive gesture, the 2nd just a crack on everybody in the thread, don't plan on there being a 3rd), I really didn't say anything about the combo itself.

the chick in salem's cornrows look just like kenny fucking powers in the preview commercials for the new season of eastbound & down

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'cauldron-step'

Witch's Brew

A+

The release of the album has apparently been delayed to 4th October?

It's on iTunes now.

Salem's FB page says it was released today.

on emusic today, too.

so it is out today? back to the record store tonight, I guess

Listening to it for the first time now. Pretty incredible I have to say...but maybe a bit too much for me. I feel slightly nauseous TBH. I don't think I can listen to the whole thing from start to finish.

Physical copies delayed one week, I guess (according to Rough Trade in the UK; maybe it came out in the States physically this week?)

good question -- anyone have any more info?

pre-ordered from insound, they emailed about a week ago to tell me the release date of 9/28 was pushed back 'till october'

ah thanks!

GOT IT TODAY!

was completely floored to hear "King Night" at the Givenchy S/S 2011 show. A perfect fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnkFi-9xwRo

I'm assuming Pitchfork is in deep deliberation about this one?