the 70s solo simon albums are so new york-y
― horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
like woody allen movies they have had a debilitating effect on my adult life
im not saying vampire weekend "should" be the new paul simon of lyrics, im just wondering if there is a 2000s paul simon
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
like if there was ever a 'scene' that could use a self aware lyricist with a good sense of humor about 'the scene'... its brooklyn ca 2010
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
and the thing is vw are UWS brats not brooklyn brats
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's clear what you have to do, max
― horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
zinging is my art
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
not lyrics
it's a fine line!!!!!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
too true, too true
in a lot of ways my tumblr is my graceland
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean you dont really need a graceland when you have the ny times in 2010:
http://celebraterickysargulesh.tumblr.com/post/418545344/brooklyn-2010
yeah i still think he did take a while to "mature" as a songwriter. the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically
― plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Come Anticipate Norah Jones's NYC Zingers.
I do think Craig Finn works at combining stuff that's never been in a song with specific snapshots of times and spaces with stream-of-consciousness, but it's not NYC.
― Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically
― plax (ico), Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:25 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it's true; i don't really like simon and garfunkel that much at all
― horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah finns a good lyricist, but hes not as funny as simon i dont think, or as self aware, and, crucially, from britain or alaska or somewhere
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ my next point, actually. To be fair to both Koenig and Simon, the latter didn't stumble into his lyrical genius. S&G is often painfully, clumsily erudite.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil Tennant and Robert Forster wrote really good songs about scenes, but their time has passed, I guess.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, thats fine. i didnt really mean to rag on VW, im just wondering if there IS a 2000s-paul-simon-of-new-york, besides me and my tumblr
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
btw i have never seen this:
In 1988, Simon released a video for the song to promote his greatest hits compilation, Negotiations and Love Songs. The video features an introduction by rappers Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. The video depicts adults interacting with the youth of an inner city schoolyard where they dealt drugs. It shows Simon playing basketball and baseball with the children, and it also features basketball player Spud Webb, baseball legend Mickey Mantle, and football coach/commentator John Madden giving tips to young athletes.[1]
― max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
(thats re: me and julio)
S+G was writing genre songs in the same way that Simon always does, but he was getting Elizabethan and Hymnal Music out of the way early, saving zydeco and (on the great "Adios Hermanos") doo-wop for later.
― Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a making the album documentary where simon talks u through writing graceland line by line and it seems like anyone could have written that song, its kindof awesome.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
idk i think his skill is in managing to be really evocative w/ the smallest parts "the child of my first marriage" is such a banal line but it also paints a massive backstory and dovetails so well w/ the forehead hair brusher l8r
― plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
the last line in this song always kills me. i'm not sure why.
― we wanted lime (mike a), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
poor boys, pilgrims with families and we are going to graceland 0
^^ i dont know that this line got "robbed" buts another one where he has perfect delivery
― max, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe he should have worked new york city into the line somehow.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
she comes back to tell me she's gone 0
The declarative sentence loses.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd just like to point out that there is a tie for first place here
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Reading these lyrics out, they read like Dan Bejar lyrics.
― altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Which is unfortunate, because I love that line.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread has sparked a total renewed interest in this album, appreciating the lyrics like never before. Thinking I might go through some of them with my advanced TELF students next week.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I remember my mom asking me to explain the lyrics to the Myth of Fingerprints to her when I was 13
― I drink your milksteak (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Something I wrote about this song last year.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 28 August 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPFESqwh0ks
― max, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
omg
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:29 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O859wd7H6h8
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
like i said before this was sort of the first "adult" album i started to kind of understand, it made me almost feel older, like some weird vicarious sense of 'mono no aware' when i was 11. and an epic song.
― omar little, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
Me and Julio video is hilarious.
Graceland doc looks a little too polite, but in any case this is my all-time favorite album so I'll watch.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
wow cool!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link