― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link
"one sided" on now. beat sorta resembles "it's like that" by run-dmc.
which reminds me: am i the only person who thinks the beat of the first track on justin's new album sounds like "another one bites the dust"? except "another one bites the dust" was a way livelier song. (talk about minimalist art-funk moves: 1980 ruled, with queen's hit and "emotional rescue" both trying so hard to be the flying lizards.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
"Love You, Hate You" grabs me right at the start by ripping "Love On a Two-Way Street" by the Moments, one of the loveliest songs in human history. Way cute Akon-doing-"Lonely" chipmunk effects, too.
"Incognito" is another favorite, I guess. Popcorn popping all over the room, and the way Brooke talks "in the back of the club" reminds me of some Pet Shop Boys song -- "Left To My Own Devices," maybe??
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link
i love 'say it right' too, even more than 'all good things (come to an end)' which is the new c martin-penned furtado single.
it's funny, i hate coldplay but have loved unequivocally virtually every r&b song which takes its cues from coldplay/is written by chris martin: these furtado ballads, jamelia's 'see it in a boy's eyes', that brandy album...
The music doesn't dance, it doesn't rock.
i don't think it sets out to do either though - the fact that several of the songs are very danceable seems incidental to the overall aim of the album, which is to be this gorgeously textured, lush, sprawling thing which isn't necessarily meant to do anything active to.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
but pitbull "jealouso" > pet shop boys "jealousy" i think (though in general the new pitbull album isn't as great as it seemed on first couple listens, or as i claimed it was on the rolling hip-hop thread at the time. it'd be less oppressive if it were half as long, though there are a few great tracks. his remix album money is still a major issue from last year is still his best record. though the new one's still easily one of the best hip-hop CDs i heard in 2006.)
in other news, the highest review on this page (the "30") was by me:
http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/federlinekevin/playingwithfire
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
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― nameom (nameom), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Or maybe doesn't; I dunno. NEVER believe me when I predict something will make my top 10, until I actually submit said top 10 somewhere. (Kick out Hold Steady because I voted for them last year and their new one's less good? Kick out Kentucky Headhunters because it compiles the best tracks from their last 3 albums? Hmmm...) Either way, Paris's "Heartbeat" sounds a lot like Cyndi's "Time After Time."
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Slumber Party Girls album is yet more evidence for the detrimental effect of Destiny's Child math-r&b "complex vocal rhythm" tedium bullshit on teen-pop/dance-pop catchiness, or lots of it is anyway, but I'm starting to kind of like "Carousel," "Summer's Gone," and the fake Miami Sound Machine track, whichever one that is (High School Musical had one of those too.) (Slumber Party Girls' one is probably "Salsa"; just a guess. I was in the other room at the time. Some other promising titles include "Bubblegum," "Eavesdroppin'," and "The Texting Song." "I Got Your Back" and "Back To Basics" were a couple of the Destiny's-style ones, I think. Lalena says "Dance Revolution Theme" is the least revolutionary sounding revolution song she's ever heard.) ("Eavesdroppin" on now - sounds kinda funky!)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link
I still think that latter day Curve were the top guns of goth-girl pop--especially the seldom doted-on The Gift.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
Not that I have anything against sheen in principle. I haven't worked out yet what I find off-putting about Beyoncé's sheen. She's a great songwriter and producer, and I think she's done a good job of making her co-stars sound good. I love Sean Paul on "Baby Boy." And I certainly put Beyoncé on the like side of the like-dislike ledger.
I wouldn't say that JoJo's "The Way You Do Me" is better than "Ring The Alarm" (both Beatz 'n' Garrett tracks) - maybe I wish "The Way You Do Me" were more of a "song" than a track - but I'm more willing dance and snuggle and giggle with it.
Funny thing is that I find JoJo's and Brooke Hogan's voices fairly characterless, and that doesn't seem to be a flaw. (It's not a virtue, though, and Paris alb is way more forceful in all sorts of ways.)
Bunch of versions floating around the net of Nelly Furtado doing Gnarls' "Crazy," BBC one being the best*. Nelly F. is a subject for further listenings and ponderings. A trouble I have with her is that she only seems to do one mood per song - I'm achy on this one, I'm flighty on that one, etc. - though again I don't see why that should necessarily be a flaw. Can't say there were a lot of variations in the mood and texture of the Kingsmen's "Louie Louie." Maybe Nelly wears out the mood before the song is finished. Anyway, she's almost moodless on "Crazy," and I think that helps, let's the song sing itself through her.
*Most ridiculous is the duet with Charlotte Church, but I can't say it's devoid of fun. (Bear in mind that I'm the person who loves the Celine Dion-Anastacia version of "You Shook Me All Night Long.")
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link
(ILX search is broken, but as far as I can tell, unaccountably there's never been an "Explain Me Charlotte Church" thread. So, explain me Charlotte Church.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Or maybe I just mean worthy of Weezer before they started to suck? Somebody else decide. (I'm definitely not saying it's near the level of "Saturday Night" or "Rock N Roll Love Letter," I'm sure of that.)
And yeah, that Charlotte Church clip was wtf?-worthy for sure. Wow.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh No! "The All New Charlotte Church Show"
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link
here's her wiki page although tbh you'd be better off insight-wise reading any issue of the News of the World:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Church
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link
her TV show is supposed to be silly btw (first series went out 10pm on Fridays in order to catch at least the first wave of the "just got home from the pub" audience). I'm sure she's "botherd" if the accents are off
also the duets tend to be exercises in trying to outsing her guests
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Miley has a really strong southern accent in her speaking voice. I hear country in her voice. I might be predisposed to hearing country in her because since I watch the show, I've heard her speaking voice a lot.
― Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
*One does tend to pronounce one's accent, doesn't one?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
chaz is popular because she's perceived as very down-to-earth (authentic, even!). she's hard-drinking and gets into fights but not so much that she's thought of as a mess - just a normal young woman. she hasn't noticeably slimmed down at any point so is seen as striking a blow for normal-sized women (while still being attractive to str8 men). she's very straight-talking and funny in interviews. she didn't move to london after she got famous and still hangs out with all her old cardiff mates.
these things count more than having good songs in britain at the moment! though the new chat show has received such slatings that the pendulum may be swinging back (i haven't seen it yet).
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I suspect a lot of what has made Charlotte a popular celebrity is her willingness to fuck up in public and her complete lack of pretension. (edit: i.e. what The Lex says + also she's still v. close to her family)
I think you can argue that CC isn't really a pop star - or at least is less of one now than in her Voice of An Angel days. Making records and singing on her TV show is now just one element of the CC package. Same with Cher, now that you mention it. (So I would certainly answer your question above in the affirmative.)
― Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link
despite her mother being a mentalist fame-hungry cow! (both v obviously in public, and also the PA of the student mag i edited was a long-time acquaintance of m4ri4 church and told us this.)
jeff is right that the chaz brand isn't popstar per se, it's more...all-round entertainer. why she is given 'permission' to be a popstar as part of this and someone like paris hilton isn't is interesting! (with chaz her early career is proof that she has the singing chops, which is a fairly unassailable argument for the british public. there was a mini-spat between chaz and cheryl tweedy of girls aloud a while ago - cheryl accused chaz of biting their style, chaz responded "when she can sing the fucking ave maria she can talk to me".)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link