It isn't fair but it happens to everyone (see for example any thread on The Cure).
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
in any event, an artist's following shouldn't dictate their worth. it just so happens that, in addition to the fact that i find his music annoying, the majority of his fan-base offers loads of comic material for those who find culturally homogenous, surban-america amusing.
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
Perhaps, but is it fair to assess worth based solely on their following? -- Allison (derangedduc...), May 11th, 2004.
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
It should be, but there's an implicit assumption that anyone who hears DMB will like them which is just false.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
Sadly, I can't stand any of those bands, either. (With the exception of a little *NSync.)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link
Not from where I sit!
maybe slightly alter the general consensus that it's dull frat rock
Or alternately confirm it...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago) link
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link
-- dan creed (drock_1...), May 10th, 2004 2:11 PM. (later)that's amazingly funny.
I'm halfway to my goal.
im gonna use that.
― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― briania, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
― briania, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link
"Bad" is a thousand times more preferrable than "dull".
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
by the way, i just want to say that i'm still fairly new to the board and feel deeply grateful for the fact that many of you have lumped DMB together with other mediocre and annoying bands i hate like Pearl Jam, Counting Crows, Phish, John Mayer, Hootie and Blowfish and U2...it's not everyday that i get to meet such great people such as yourselves.....*sniff*
okay, now i'm getting emotional.....
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 00:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Allison (Allison), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link
― GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:07 (twenty years ago) link
I searched for -Dave Matthews Band- and could not find this thread in the results.
Then I searched -I Love Dave Matthews Band- and still did not find it.
I then searched -Dave Matthews Band hated- and only found some references to this thread, but not the thread itself.
Finally, searching -"Dave Matthews Band : Name your reasons"- and found four tenuous references to this thread, but not the thread itself.
This thread does not exist. Please delete.
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:25 (twenty years ago) link
― GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
nothing too funny, but i found an interesting review on one of his albums...here are some quotes:
http://www.ironminds.com/ironminds/issues/010321/tunes.shtmlFor these reasons, the Dave Matthews Band has been successfully filling a niche that’s existed just as long as indistinguishable radio pop — Earnest Rock. And although this niche can make you rich, fat and happy, it’s much more distressing than anything ’NSync could think up. Earnest Rock was the great unwritten-about musical trend of the ’90s — mostly because rock critics couldn’t summon the interest to dissect such blindingly mediocre records. Earnest Rock, as performed by groups like Hootie and the Blowfish and Counting Crows, thrives as a reaction to the overblown tendencies of the musical extremes elsewhere in the marketplace. While this brand of music might be more “meaningful” than, say, Destiny’s Child, it’s also achingly dull in comparison to the catharsis and passion fueling a Nirvana or a PJ Harvey (or a Le Tigre or a Yo La Tengo).......It can’t even be discussed on its own merits because, really, it can’t exist by itself. It’s Plan B. It’s just there. Which is worse, much worse, than sucking.
...It can’t even be discussed on its own merits because, really, it can’t exist by itself. It’s Plan B. It’s just there. Which is worse, much worse, than sucking.
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link
Subject: RE: Dave Matthews Obsession From: Dave is AMAZING Date: 09-Oct-03 Message: ok, first of all, a lot of you people who are dave bashing all are hypocritical asses. Don't give me that crap about dave matthews being a racist and not having any talent. Why don't you get your damn facts straight before YOU start sounding IGNORANT...oh...wait...i think it's a little too late for that. Dave was born in south africa and like most of the normal people on this message board said....dave's music comes from the experience of hearing the music of south africa. and what's the crap about having all his "black" members stand behind him on stage...well..let me give you a little wake up call......go to a dave concert asses and take a look. he steps away and lets boyd (the guy on the electric fiddle) take the stage. So YET AGAIN you are WRONG. I am not going to bash marilyn manson or whatever music you listen to. What i am going to say is Dave is a brillian musician, and songwriter. Ever listen to his lyrics? they have so much MEANING to them....got that... M E A N I N G! So take a chance and listen to his music before you go and start with the dave hate.....cut the crap.
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
Alas, this thread shall never die when we are belssed by the likes of:"go to a dave concert asses and take a look."
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
― briania, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Ihatepeoplethataresorryforthemselves, Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:09 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link
1) Dave Matthews Band2) Sexually Transmitted Diseases3) Pitchforkmedia (This one might actually be true)4) The weather in Chicago5) Jeff Probst6) Middle English7) The thieves that broke into my car and stole 10 recently purchased indie rock CDs with almost no resale value
― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link