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xp-hmmmmmm
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Subject: camron interviewDate: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:55:18 -0400From: ethan To: ryan@pitchforkmedia.com
youll have this by next week
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Subject: Re: camron interviewDate: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:25:06 -0500From: "Pitchforkmedia.com" To: References: 1
Give it to NLYPM, I can't use it.
Ryan
Subject: Re: camron interviewDate: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:33:03 -0400From: ethan To: "Pitchforkmedia.com" References: 1 , 2
why the fuck not
Subject: Re: camron interviewDate: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:27:49 -0500From: "Pitchforkmedia.com" To: References: 1 , 2 , 3
You know why, we don't cover mainstream rap. A Cam'ron review would be totally out of place and weird.
-- simon trife (simo...), August 26th, 2002.
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― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link
i think i just wanted to brag about how i was up on dipset before the blogosphere.
also remember when everyone loved cam'ron because of "boys" back when the whole kanye/justblaze thing was breaking? haha yeah those were the days.
(dipset qua dipset -- i.e. not the individual dudes -- also gets plenty of b.e.t. play, so its not just the blogosphere that digs em. tho maybe the blogosphere is fairly alone in rilly digging the mixtapes. speculation: dipset mixtapes are real easy to get ahold of & becuz of low album sales & lack of source covereage are therefore hipper than say 50 vs. LL Cool Jay AND Tigra pt. 48 & therefore are custom-made for indie-ethos consumption? "whoa -- he rhymed apple with snapple with dapple with lapel with crabapple with paffle with grapple with clappel!")
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(thanks SFJ! best track i ever downloaded! ...oops)
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"Cam'ron's Harlem-raised protege Juelz Santana is most intriguing of all because he doesn't even try to deny his sympathies (I wonder how many similar facades will fall before too long). Santana (and what a historically provocative name *that* is) actually boasts about identifying with those who would censor and destroy his own music; the much-vaunted "courage when he was driving the plane / reminds me of when I was dealing the 'cane" line, alluding to the perpetrators of September 11th, is actually a piece of headline-seeking self-importance which doesn't really shock at all; what does make me almost fall out of my chair in shock, especially in context of everything Bush has stirred up, is the casual, presumably approving shout of "Taliban!" at the intro of the Diplomats' "I'm Ready", and again towards the end (I almost described the song as a "posse cut", but to call this a posse cut would be like calling "Anarchy In The UK" skiffle). The word is not presented as some universal evil, just as something casual to say, JUST ANOTHER WORD, JUST ANOTHER ANALOGY. The song itself sounds fascistic in its sheer bludgeoning of the point; Mark E. Smith would have approved of this when he sang "Repetition in our music / And we're never going to lose it" (inspired by Neu!, of course, as were the Sex Pistols' fundamentally defunkified rhythms - indeed you could say this 2003 wave of fascist-hop is doing to hip-hop what the Pistols did to rock music, fundamentally removing it from its inherently black rhythmic roots) a quarter of a century ago. Same sped-up vocal sample for the best part of 5 minutes, no flux or sonic evolution at all, no trace of the flexibility of black pop past and much of the present."
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link
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