What are people's favourite dancehall rhythms of the year or so...

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yeah, i'll stick to chapped ellipsis

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

oh i heard sars in the end, as sean said ages ago wayne wonder's spare version is really bewitching but what i like most is it's the only one where you can make out that faint murmuring on the normal dub, if it was called anything else i might take it for crowd noise, hubbub, idle chatter but on a SARS RIDDIM! oh it's ghastly! and behind w wonder's love forever swoons and the piercing emergency-respiration-beep chorus, oh! you see him alone in a leper ward serenading his dying love, unrecognisable only to him by now but she's beautiful, and he's not wearing a mask and he knows he will also die soon but no he'll be home soon. driven home in a somnambulance

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

*speechless*

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

"with throb riddims i guess i was thinking of when a riddim sounds especially amazing in series and flow and where the vocals are subbed and desirable in a sort of generic 'add 2tsp jamaican' way. here it's harder to find personalised memorable versions where they might well disrupt the lovely tyrrany of the beat."

I suspect I'm much more enamoured of hearing multiple versions of riddims mixed together because that's pretty much the only way I hear new tracks so it's now the primary way I *experience* dancehall. And I think that's why something like Dreamweaver appeals to me more than maybe it does you - hearing the new element of the tailored riddim come in at the same time as the new DJ (bouncy piano for "Visa", strings for "Hot Like Fire", screams for "Blessed") makes the contrast within the "changing same" much more marked, and allows the mood of the set to shift while using the same riddim. Whereas it tends to prevent a definitive version from emerging.

That said I can totally sympathise with your preference. As I said just upthread I really like the fact that all of Sean Paul's tracks sound like one-offs.

I've yet to hear anything on Sars! There's never anything on Limewire.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:38 (twenty years ago) link

my experience of dancehall is much the same tho, haha oh if i go on like i'm a shophed it's cos i'm too boasy = envious at slsk etc or simply to give a diff perspective. i'm a rap luva disgruntled at vinyl kulcha at its lowest ebb, and grime is hardly the black plastic whirlwind one would like it to be, frankly, so dancehall provides a certain solace. "i can be a right ingram about it". but i wouldnt want to give the impression i dont love the things you love, far from it; what's key here is the word that stuck most in my craw later once i posted, 'memorable', and how i might use a def version as a glyph for remembering that experiential rush. but before we fall down this tangent let us remind ourselves how much lenky looks like ned raggett, and back away slowly

funny u should mention dreamweaver cos as much as i felt blessed's intro chico's 'thick and thin' is by far my favourite now. more on that elsewhere

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 29 November 2003 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

"the concept of the definitive text corresponds only to religion or exhaustion" yep aaaand yep!

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 29 November 2003 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

I'm gonna say stuff on all that later but can I interrupt proceedings to say: Elephant Man "Can't Stop We Now"!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 1 December 2003 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

hm. counterruption!

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:44 (twenty years ago) link

my fave customisation of dreamweaver right now is assasin's "girls alone," just because of that squelchy 303 or whatever it is under the verses. it's very timbaland.

― rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link

that "one tump" rhythm is bonkers. it's like 2-step dancehall. wait! no, it's totally ska. haha, everyone seems to want to put laser sounds on it, appropriately. it makes my heart rate go up involuntarily.

― rgeary (rgeary), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

Mad Instruments Riddim = the new Coolie Dance surely (only with handclaps)? I mean that in the best possible sense.

Elephant Man's "Nah" in particular is great. I have a soft-spot again for T.O.K. ("Hotter Fire") though because they increasingly sound like some sort of South American marching band.

Fuck me I cannot BELIEVE the torrent of amazing stuff!!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

Prima that site is invaluable! Serenade Riddim! And you were right about Ngozi too.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

Greensleeves should sell subscriptions to the riddim comps.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

it is IMPOSSIBLE to find any dancehall comps from this year around these parts. though i found the bollywood riddim album mixed with the metal comps.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

Is the Vybz Kartel album supposed to be in stores? I've found other GS stuff, but none of the stores around here are carrying VK.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

Hot Girl Riddim! Wireless Riddim! etc. etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

BTW the riddim on Sizzla's "All Is Well" is apparently the Cool Face riddim.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

is now when i just admit i gave up in september?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:41 (twenty years ago) link

tim is that sizzla tune kind of slow with an effect on his voice on the chorus?

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:44 (twenty years ago) link

ah, no i'm thinking of something else, sorry

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:46 (twenty years ago) link

Ice riddim is awesome.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

Jess - don't give up! It just keeps getting better!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

I just heard someone (was it Paul Sci-Fi?) big up myself, Zemko, Ingram and some others on the Robbo Ranx show! ROXOR!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 05:26 (twenty years ago) link

haha!

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

usually I check the archives, but since this was live thought it high time

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

i've lost my mix cd. :,,(

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

Tim: But hasn't there always been a torrent of amazing stuff?

― cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

tsk zzzz cybele! you can't honestly say dancehall doesnt have a totally giddy larval carnival vibe right now that it didn't have b4. but yeah secretly i do pine for some old dark boomy 94 gullyness... which is when sopranos or new brain riddims come along and cater

ooh anyway i dunno about babycham stealing fiesta but he totally wins on d kelly's nu 'pretty pretty' fake fiesta riddim!

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

(can be heard early on in goldfinger's resurgent bbc radio 1 show last week btw)

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

also wireless riddim has harry toddler doing 'donkey kick' again

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

tim otm re: em - "ycswn"

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

wireless riddim is unbelievable! it works great with creeper on that paradisevibes sampler too.

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

Cybele - Prima's post pretty much captures it. I didn't follow dancehall pre about 2000 and even then my knowledge up until '02 was sketchy, but in retrospect while I enjoyed it I don't think I really clicked with the dark electro-minimalism and gangsta-menace that seemed to dominate circa 99/00 (think "bellyas" - this may also be why I'm not so keen on "surprise").

The shift over 01/02 into this technicolour world of ALL PARTY ALL THE TIME mentalism is what has allowed me to embrace it so utterly - this is seriously and absolutely my favourite music right now. It plays to pretty much every one of my weaknesses, combining the energy and showmanship of hip hop with the anthemic accessibility of pop with the brazen and menacing sexuality of 2-step with the rhythmic danger of jungle with the hypnotic repetition of house or techno with (and maybe this is the most important part in terms of why dancehall *right now* seems so vital) a sort of unabashed and untempered joyfulness whose vehemence exceeds anything since the glory days of rave.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 4 December 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

I love how any time any of the 1xtra DJs play Bling Dawg's "Propoganda" (on Dreamweaver) they have to replay the mental wail in the first few seconds over and over again.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link

is robbery this year? recommend me some versions if poss.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 8 December 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

father i will avenge you with x amount of hot tunes

man i have sorely underrated bare nose coolie riddim! bit like mad instr or coolie dance but better imo. please check the beenie man one, it's deranged, like a 50s african doowop ghost train! also tell me its name thnx

and butter riddim, the throbdrop is crazy

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Thunderclap riddim - search Vybz, Bounty and Elephant versions. It's a bit like a sequel to 20 Cent, though I've yet to find a version as good as Mad Cobra's "Lazy Gal". Elephant Man's is as crazy as you'd expect, mind - the fastest I've heard him rap, I think.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY GOD AMAZING RIDDIM ALERT: go listen to Seani B's set on 1xtra (www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/) - the first riddim he plays is awesome! Particularly Spragga Benz's "Guns & Girls" and Elephant Man's "Cant Gwaan a JA". Will try to find out what it's called - it sounds like hi-speed gamelan with rave whistles!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Oh so this is the Ching-Chong riddim which has been mentioned before. It's still amazing though!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

More great stuff: Suncycle - You Know (don't know what the riddim is, but it's more alien drama plus pop choruses)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

Tim OTM. Seani B's Mixlab show on 1xtra is the best radio show I know of at the moment.

ok I'm ultra late to the party but the Fiesta rhythm and the follow-up by the same guy ('Pretty Pretty' is it?) are both grebt.

An oldie but goodie = Bookshelf

― Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link

Is Pretty Pretty just the muddier sounding version of Fiesta with the guitar bit? I like it but it lacks Fiesta's sparkliness a bit.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

sounded quite nice for christmas tho

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

i think "famine" and "kashmir" might be my fave riddims from last year, all things considered. i knew i was un-pop at heart.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

1. famine
2. pharoah
3. kashmir
4, egyptian
5. bollywood
6. clappas
7. sars
8. coolie dance
9. sign
10. cure (ha ha)

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

Famine's pretty pop though Fiddo. Not as pop as Rebirth, but pop. (I would think you'd love Rebirth though!)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago) link

chrome riddim is triffic too, do check the beenie and bounty killer in particular. ninja man - 'modern' on senseless sounds totally dj/rupture, so there's another one for u fiddo! also why has no one followed me up for lime cay (key?) riddim, c'mon dudes you trust me right?

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

wait fiddo u were first with panty raid riddim, i think i prefer that one better than the ones on yr list. u no like?

― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

Prima I don't have that much choice over which riddims I get to hear. I'm sure Lime Cay is great though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

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