Clear Channel tacitly supporting pro-war rallies.

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and so strange that lastnight Godspeed You Black Emperor! played a Clear Channel show in Detroit...

ken taylrr, Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Either way it's sickening, whether you're pro-war or anti-war, to see these supposedly neutral entities openly funding biased political events.

That's weird I never though of Clear Channel as neutral in any way. They're a private company, they have an axe to grind.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

For some reason this old vision has returned into my head of those private energy-industry sessions in the White House back at the beginning of Dubya/Cheney's term with Hamid Karzai (a former Unocal associate), Condi Rice (a former Chevron associate), Ken Lay, and Taliban representatives, only suddenly now they're joined by Tom Hicks of Clearchannel. It's just a retarded paranoid stoner vision, I know this, but shit.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why should Krugman give the fees he earned from Enron (way before 2001) back? It's not gonna help their laid-off workers any.

hstencil, Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paul Krugman, the Bush administration's most caustic, authoritative, and well-spoken critic, is the last journalist in the world I would accuse of being a "bufoon."

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

(or a "buffoon," for that matter)

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree, Krugman was on NPR this afternoon, matching wits with some drone from the Heritage Foundation, and it sounded kinda like this (with Krugman as "Nathan" and the Heritage Foundation Guy as "Bob") although it mostly kept drifting back to issues of budgets and medicare cuts.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which NPR "show" was that on? I'd be interested in finding the audio.

Last night, TV belonged to another Times editorial page heavy hitta - Thomas Friedman interviewed on CNN, then had a show on the Discovery Channel where he traveled around the Mideast and Europe, talking to people about the post-9/11 Muslim world. (Nodding earnestly behind his heavy moustache.)

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Diane Reams show (it had a guest host though...missus Emphysema must be at the clinic in Switzerland getting her blood changed or something.)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, here's a link
http://www.wamu.org/dr/index.html
Look for the 10:00. It's 80% of the way down the page.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cool, thanks.

Looks like he was also on Freshhhh Air this week, talking about the tax cut - his bread and buttah.

http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1174641

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Diane Reams show
Oooops. Sorry. Her last name name is actually 'Rehms.'
If you've never heard her show, she sounds like this 190-year old lady who must be sucking on oxygen between asking questions.
But she can occasionally ask something really brutal and still sound like a nice old grandma when she says it. Ho ho ho.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, now, this is total and complete bullshit.

The whole idea came to radio talk show host Glenn Beck by a caller who was complaining about the anti-war rallies and that there were no pro-American rallies going on, and this gave Beck an idea to start up some rallies. He organized the first two (I've forgotten where they were held) and then the station managers for the various radio stations around the country that syndicate his program called him up on the rest.

You guys are totally being fed major spin by ultra-left wingers who can't stand the fact that there are regular Americans out there who don't hate their country and that the actions of the regular people can have so much of an effect on the country. NPR's coverage of the war in Iraq is more loathing of the troops than anything anyone at CNN has ever said, and that's saying something. Also, Glenn Beck himself has complained about how much the reporters who are desperately trying to angle the stories about the "Rallies for America" into a "corporate control" conspiracy so they can see the efforts of everyday Americans who are actually appreciative of this country burn to the ground.

It angers me that lies like the ones you've stated are being gobbled up, especially since it seeks to discredit the efforts of people such as the 16-year-old girl who almost single-handedly set up a "Rally for America" in her community and who was harrassed by a reporter with an agenda.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

p.s.: THESE ARE NOT PRO-WAR RALLIES. These are "Rallies for America", rallies (or is it rallys? -- er, I really don't care anymore) that celebrate America and show support for the troops. One of the first rallies, in fact, opened up with a prayer for peace by an Muslim imam.

You want to talk about balance and illicit funding? What about all those anti-war rallies? Many of them are funded by Communist organizations that provide the protestors with ready-made signs that say all manner of nasty things about Bush and Blair but don't say a single thing about the evil deeds of Saddam Hussein. In fact, at an anti-war rally in London, when a woman who fled Iraq in '91 to live in England wanted to talk to the crowd about the horrors she suffered under the Hussein regime, she wasn't allowed to do that. She was pushed away. Why was she? Why couldn't she talk about something that had all the relevance in the world to the issue these people were supposedly protesting?

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I must have missed something. . . where are these lies that you are referring to? It seems like yr statement jibes pretty well with what the Tribune article had to say (the radio stations are using their airwaves to organize political rallies).

And Rallies for America = Rallies to Support the Policies of George Bush = Rallies to Support George Bush's War on Iraq. It's pretty silly to claim otherwise.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

You guys are totally being fed major spin by ultra-left wingers who can't stand the fact that there are regular Americans out there who don't hate their country and that the actions of the regular people can have so much of an effect on the country.

Yeah, because anyone who would dare to suggest that they had a right given them by the founding fathers of this country to vocally oppose the current administration's policies obviously hates America.

As far as this "constitution" thingy that keeps coming up, Osama Hussein must have had a hand in it. Or the Taliban. Err, or Commies--those dirty red bastards are sneaky like that.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 3 April 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, Dee, I just don't understand you at all. WHY does an anti-war rally HAVE to be automatically labelled as "anti-American", therefore making any pro-war rally "pro-American"? The Clear Channel rallies were more or less explicitly for the war itself, no matter how much they'd like to package it otherwise. This is not an issue of patriotism versus anti-patriotism; that's just a convenient rhetorical device that's useful to disguise the truth of what's going on. In any event, Clear Channel has just as much a right to support the war as other media outlets do not to support the war; however, I started this thread to discuss my outrage over the fact that Clear Channel is a purportedly apolitical media-based corporation, and is just further establishing itself as a bastion of corporate conservatism. There's no "ultra left-wing" conspiracy here, just a massive corporation -- NOT regular people, as you try to argue -- proving more and more each day that it's just the mouthpiece of Bush's agendas. Nice try, but your rhetoric just strikes a completely hollow note.

justin s., Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link


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