Rolling Metal Thread 2008

actually having listened to the whole thing I'd say "it's real good" and "it sounds kinda like Only Theater of Pain/Deathwish-era Christian Death only more metal"

is dead child more of that horrible dave pajo crap? that last album was the worst thing i've ever heard.

So, Sigh - Gallows Gallery has been remastered 2 years after it came out. Is it any different?

The reissue, remastered by James Murphy (Testament/Death), also features revamped artwork and several bonus
tracks. The band recently released their album 'Hangman's Hymn' in June of this year to rave reviews.

About the reissue, singer/founder/frontman Mirai Kawashima says: "In the beginning, Gallows Gallery was planned to be
pretty much a jazzy album. You'll hear the discarded pieces along with some alternate versions never heard before in the
bonus tracks. Remastered

is dead child more of that horrible dave pajo crap? that last album was the worst thing i've ever heard.

It's Pajo for sure - I didn't hear the last one. My wife sez some song of his she heard on the radio was like the worst thing she'd ever heard. I dunno man! Dead Child new one sounds like Christian Death crossed with QOTSA!

well, the last one was beyond bad. that's all i know. painful. like, dudes, just have fun in the basement, okay, no need to put that shit out in public.

mostly i just hate when indie dudes try and play metal cuz they have to play so slow cuz they can't play.

and i got no problem with jokes! the song i heard from the deathalbum the other day was AWESOME!

I didn't see anything about this on the 2007 thread but these yankee black metal guys Imperial Crystalline Entombment kick ass: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=73387075

i actually bought actual CDs today! at a record store! with money! i know, what year am i living in. but i did. got me some amon amarth (never got a copy of with oden on our side), some beherit, some gorguts (twofer of considered dead/the erosion of sanity), and some bathory! i gotta support my local record store. especially as i'm the one who helped them set up their new metal section. which is looking great by the way!

Just got the new Dead Child in the mail...the vocals have an early-eighties metal vibe. Chuck I wonder if you wouldn't dig this record a lot, at least the first two tracks, which is where I'm at.

Okay, I'll put it back on; I'd already given up on it before I read John's post. I was thinking the singer -- at least in his high register -- sounded too much like Jack White (sort of like the Wolfmother guy), except really thin (even thinner than the Danava guy). Liked some of the riffs, but the overall air wasn't grabbing me; wonder if I'd have thought differently if I didn't suspect they were, as Scott says, "indie dudes try and play metal" stuff. I have no opinion about Dave Pajo himself one way or the other; who is he again? (I'm not kidding -- okay, I just Wiki'd him; skimmed his resume', and I still have no opinion about the guy.) Anyway, I wouldn't say the Dead Child stuff I was listening to was especially slow or inept, but it wasn't really grabbing me, either, mainly because of the weak voice, I think. Track 10 "Wasp Riot" (amusing name) was even reminding me of Killing Joke a little, though not as palatably as when October File and Alchemyst reminded me of Killing Joke a few months ago. I don't think I've ever listened to a Christian Death album, oddly enough. (Used to like 45 Grave, though; does that count? And once in New York Rocker somebody reviewed Chirstian Death alongside the first Bad Religion album, I guess because of their names, so I've always associated them with each other even though they have nothing in common.) Anyway, I'll try Dead Child again, at John's behest, but I'm not expecting anything. If I change my mind I'll say so here; if not, I'll probably just leave it at this.

(Weird how people here think both Danava's and Dead Child's singers sound early '80s metal; I don't hear them that way at all. Maybe my stereo just stinks.)

Christian Death and 45 Grave -- commonality -- none, that I could ever tell. Christian Death was always into art. 45 Grave was into monster movie jokes, which they pulled off pretty successfully for awhile with "Partytime" and its dispensation through that Eighties comedy zombie movie everyone in the US went to see. Dinah Cancer gave them something of an effective frontwoman/singer, too.

Was Christian Death on the Hell Comes to Your House comps on Bemisbrain? I can't remember.

Yep; maybe that's why the two bands are connected in my head:

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,327164,00.html

Wish I still had my copy, though it probably wasn't very good. (Why else would I have gotten rid of it, right?)

has been known to command prices in excess of $100 for a good vinyl copy

Fuck...The story of my life.

Christian Death and 45 Grave were friends and played together a lot but Christian Death was less campy. Or less playin'-it-for-laffs, anyway. Their first album & the Deathwish EP were them as a rock band, then they got arty. Still rock but kinda breezier and keyboardier. So when I say the Dead Child thing is kinda like them I mean the early lineup, not the Valor lineup.

man Scott I been spinnin that Erosion of Sanity reissue like twice a week. What a great fucking band.

45 Grave was into monster movie jokes, which they pulled off pretty successfully for awhile with "Partytime" and its dispensation through that Eighties comedy zombie movie everyone in the US went to see. Dinah Cancer gave them something of an effective frontwoman/singer, too.

Love both versions of that song (one of my all-time faves, really), but the older version, the child abuse one, is creepy as hell.

I got some good dirt on you from Rosa, Phil!

What metal blogs are y'all reading now?

so apparently pestilence (!) are making a comeback:

I have for you the best news you can even imagine... PESTILENCE IS BACK!!! There is new line up: founder Patrick Mameli (vocals, guitar), well known Tony Choy (bass) and drummer Peter Wildoer (Darkane, Non-Human Level and others). Patrick is working on new great songs which style he describes as modern fusion of "Testimony..." and "Spheres", but even more technical (!!!) and more brutal. New album will be recorded by Jacob Hansen and produced by Patrick himself. As you see we all have a reason to live!

did anyone here hear c-187?

Metal blogwise, I still say invisibleoranges.com and The Deciblog are the two most important ones out there right now.

thanks, A!

The Dead Child full-length is a big improvement over the EP, which was mind-roastingly shitty. Right now I'm listening to the Genghis Tron disc, which is also kinda awesome if a little too much for my present, already somewhat frantic 'n' skittish, state of mind. Up next: the Kingdom of Sorrow album, or maybe Grief Of War's A Mounting Crisis...As Their Fury Got Released, or maybe even the Earache nü-thrash compilation Thrashing Like A Maniac (Bonded By Blood, Evile, Municipal Waste, Dekapitator, Fueled By Fire, Decadence, Warbringer, SSS, Gama Bomb, Merciless Death, Deadfall, Lazarus, Toxic Holocaust, Mutant, Violator and Send More Paramedics). Tried the Gathering live album A Noise Severe last week and was bored nearly senseless. I guess I just don't get that band, and don't really care.

In other news, the 2008 Gigantour lineup sounds fucking great (Megadeth obviously, plus In Flames, Children Of Bodom, Job For A Cowboy and High On Fire), and I will definitely be there when the show hits NYC in April. Oh, and my new Iron Maiden Vans (with artwork from "The Trooper") came in today, as did my advance CD-Rs of the Hellhammer stuff. Woo-hoo!

Gigantour's headed my way this year, which I'm really happy about. Any chance to see High on Fire again, and I'm there.

It should be a fun year for metal shows...I plan on flying somewhere to catch Maiden's Somewhere Back in Time tour, which is pretty much the ultimate show for 37 year-old Maiden geeks. Yay nostalgia!

Roxy: http://www.metalsucks.net/ is very entertaining and irreverent.

I heard the Meshuggah album at the listening party on Saturday night. The other people there were going nuts over it, but it isn't really my thing. It didn't seem much of a stretch from their other material, but according to my friend it's way better than the last two albums. And Phil, I had Rosa take a picture of me with her to show you that I, I don't know, exist. Ask her about it.

You exist, Jeff? Impossible, we dreamt you up Saturday as a consensual hallucination.

Man, you guys must have some twisted imaginations to dream me up. I feel sorry for you.

Got the Meshuggah in today's mail - haven't had a chance to listen past track two yet, but so far I like it. Not a major leap forward, backward or in any direction, but at least it's not one long song. Can't wait to see them live again in May.

After hearing Gojira and Hacride do such great stuff with a similar sound, Meshuggah seem to be spinning their wheels. I realize that they were pretty revolutionary in their day, but there just doesn't seem to have been much advancement on their parts. But like I said, a lot of the other people there were loving it, so...

I heard the one song that surfaced over the weekend, and it sounds very promising. I found Catch Thirty Three to be rather dull, but judging by the track, they really seem to have shaken the cobwebs out. Nothing remains one of my favourite metal albums of the decade.

They're being (justifiably) stingy with advance copies...web writers (which is me in this case, having missed out on a print assignment)won't get to hear it for another couple months yet.

Holy crap, did anyone else see the new In Flames cover art? I would post a JPEG here, but it's huge... here's a link: http://a596.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_dbd387cecdff812a8316bdd11ee5e1e3.jpg

Wow.

wow thats awful.

I think it's kind of cool, actually. Has a very classic metal feel to it, like a Fates Warning cover or something.

looks like 90s goth johan vasquez comic book lameness. but inflames has always been lame.

holy shit, that's even worse than the Meshuggah

YOUR LAME

It's a bit, erm, busy, that's for sure. Idolator's going to be all over this one for their 2008 worst covers tournament if they ever see it.

that would not look good on a backpatch.

I don't think the "www.jesterhead.com" thing is going to be on the cover, obviously. But it definitely stands out. Way better than the Meshuggah cover.

InFlames have always had the WORST covers and shirts and songs.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TS8G.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

OK, I can't really argue with you about the covers (although I still like the new one), but the Star Wars-style shirt is pretty cool, and they are the band that got me into death-type metal, so I have much love for them for that. They had a really great run of albums between Jester Race and Clay Man.

Yeah, as much as I like In Flames, their album art is not very good. Actually, I found a really cool Come Clarity shirt a couple years ago, it has the artwork used on the promo CD, which was way better than the actual album cover.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/djgarion/Bands/in_flames-come_clarity.jpg

Okay, that new cover is so getting referred to Idolator for the Worst Album Cover competition...

Wow, no kidding. I liked the last album, but the sketchy picture of the guy ripping out his own heart is so painfully emo.

I really like that weirdly busy and colorful one. The little sticker thing in the lower righthand corner makes it look worse than it actually is, I think.

if you enjoy that cover, rox, i think i know of a book you would REALLY like:
http://www.psychobabyonline.com/site/pics/533/27796/185559/255372/where_the_wild_things_are.jpg

That's a great book!

Ha, that new Alestorm album is great fun. Shame about the voice-overs, though. I only wish they'd ditch the synth in favour of some real accordion...

After hearing Gojira and Hacride do such great stuff with a similar sound, Meshuggah seem to be spinning their wheels.

in my mind I've always seen them as mad scientist types obsessing over how to finally build the PREFECT MESHUGGAH SONG. yeah, it all sounds the same and yeah they kinda already did it with the 'i' ep but whatevs. still can't wait to hear this.

Yeah, that was a poor zing, Chaki. That book is awesome!