No. I mean, yes. Wait...what?
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Is it possible that he's saying, "I see so many boys who I want get married?" As in, "I see so many boys I want to marry [off]."
Possible? If it is, the song would be more of a celebration of love/marriage rather than paedophilia.
I won't try to argue this is what he's saying. Only that it's a possibility.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 18 July 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 18 July 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
and obv there's no connection between pedophilia and gay marriage, except in interpreting lyrics about "marrying boys"!
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 18 July 2005 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― sdfdsgf, Monday, 18 July 2005 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 18 July 2005 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Monday, 18 July 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
As for the implications: is it "shocking"? I guess the subject is somewhat so. Is it an especially interesting take on the subject? Not to me, if the criteria here is whether the song gives us "new insight" into what motivates pedophilia. But maybe that's not the place of a song anyway.
By the way, am I the only one who, prompted by the riff, wants to burst into "I Will Follow Him" during the second half of the song? Actually, maybe that's appropriate ("I LOVE HIM! I LOVE HIM! AND WHERE HE GOES I'LL FOLLOW!!")
Frankly, I'm more appalled by his version of Antony's "Fistful of love."
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Baby Eater!!!
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link
that said, i think there's a clear difference of degree between that Heaven 17 tune and a happy-go-round song whose centre is the chorus "i see plenty little kids i have yet to have!"
this song would be better if it was "i will follow him".
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:19 (nineteen years ago) link
"Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl,Than to be with another man.You better keep your head, little girl,Or you won't know where I am.
You better run for your life if you can, little girl;Hide your head in the sand, little girl;Catch you with another man,That's the end, little girl.
Well, you know that I'm a wicked guyAnd I was born with a jealous mindAnd I can't spend my whole life tryin'Just to make you tow the line.
Let this be a sermon,I mean everything I've said.Baby, I'm determinedThat I'd rather see you dead.
I'd rather see you dead, little girl,Than to be with another man.You better keep your head, little girl,Or you won't know where I am.
Na, na, na.Na, na, na.Na, na, na."
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link
its like rockabilly....
hey dan, i'll get the link fixed tomorrow. sorry about that. still haven't got the box set but looking forward to it.
i love the devendra banhart album. its cool. its so messy i love that quality about it.
― doomie x, Monday, 18 July 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rob Uptight (Rob Uptight), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
OK. What's black and comes in a little white can?
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
scott, I'm not totally comfortable with your comparison to "little girl." Is it really the same? Is "little boy" used as commonly when someone (male or female) is talking about a male love interest as "little girl" is (or maybe was?--I can't say I hear it very often)? Just because it's the flip side doesn't mean it's conotations are going to be symmetrical. I'm raising the question, though, I'm not saying I know how commonly it might be used. It does sound familiar the way "little girl" does.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 18 July 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
"How is working with a full band different from recording solo?
Banhart: This isn't the stoned jam record I will someday make in Portland, or the space reggae vibe fest it coulda been. It was... well, "what do you hear on this one?" and so we found that sound. We had a lot of help finding musicians from Dan Bunny from the great The BunnyBrains."
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.billtmiller.com/bunnybrains/
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Spoke too soon, this is growing on me.
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
plain swapping boy for girl and then not really changing things otherwise may be simple gender based word play. its interesting to wonder who'd be paying attention at all if he'd used the well worn "little girl" phrase.
Nancy Sinatra swaps in boy in her version of "Run for Your Life" and noone's after her for it. of course, in that case we have yr standard heterosexual heirarchy in place. That make's this whole discussion seem to be overly concerned with sex side of it. If joanna newsome, say wrote this would there be such a discussion.
given devendras perfomrmances as abra and obvious lack of concern for gender rules and his stated interest in writing songs that exist more like old standards or folk songs, i think too much reading into his motives here is easily too much
― b b, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― white boi, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― crown victoria (dymaxia), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 21 July 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link
I asked your mother for you She told me that you was too young I wish to the Lord I’d never seen your face or heard your lying tongue Irene goodnight, Irene goodnight Goodnight Irene, Goodnight Irene
― rd, Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link