Pigfuck

Headbutt, Pitchfork Skyscraper, Sun Carriage...these bands always used to support far superior American bands in London in the early 90s.

i was fond of the first couple silverfish things. still feel like i need to dig deeper into australia's 80's noiserock stuff. been listening to grong grong and x and feedtime so much this year.

this is kinda interesting, even if it isn't all pigfuck/noiserock stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhfYab0VvcA

"OzObscurist — September 01, 2009 — 80s Australia had a very active scuzzy guitar proto-grunge-thing, but due to cultural cringe and general apathy, has mostly been given away, and in need of restoration. Many who were there consider grunge (both the word's application to music and the sound itself) an Australian invention. This has currency for several reasons. Legendary Oz bands like Box of Fish and Beasts of Bourbon used "grunge" as early as 83, and Mark Arm-founder of Mudhoney and oft credited as the first to (self-)describe music as grunge-, acknowledged bands like "King Snake Roost, The Scientists, Salamander Jim, and Beasts of Bourbon" as using it first, or atleast loosely part of a scene in which the word was used. These Oz groups, among others, are also touted as major influences by the Seattle grungers, and were supported by labels like AmRep and Sub Pop in the face of the wider Oz music industry's neglect."

Also Jacob's Mouse iirc? xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q65koj0fnA

^ Scott, do you know these guys?

still like chuck's "sasquatch rock" better than "grunge".

don't know fungus brains. will listen!

oh and that oz youtube thing is this:

1. Grong Grong - "Poor Herb"
2. The Poofters - "Wipe Out Yoor Whole Family"
3. Bushpig - "Rorting About"
4. No More Bandicoots - "Baby Botswana"

Fungus Brains were an offshoot of Dugald Mackenzie's Sick Things so part of the same Melbourne thing as Venom P Stinger.

So what was the relationship between those Oz bands and all the post-Birdman quasi-Detroit ones (Celibate Rifles, Lime Spiders, Died Pretty, New Christs, etc.)? Were they two different scenes? I definitely associated the Scientists with those bands at the time, and probably Feedtime too, but I was in Michigan. (Also, the Scientists went through so many changes in their sound, from post-Birthday Party psychobilly to way lighter powerpop, it was hard to figure out where they belonged.)

And again, people like Lester Bangs used "grunge" pretty often in Creem in the '70s (I used it in a Voice review of the Ramones' Too Tough To Die in '84, and I wasn't being original.) So it's not that weird that a bunch of bands would claim it in '83. (Though yeah, when I first heard Skin Yard/Melvins/Green River/U-Men etc. in '86 or so, I was calling that Seattle stuff Bigfoot Rock.)

Well, come to think of it, I guess it would make sense that Australia would have both a post-Radio Birdman scene and a post-Birthday Party scene. Though I'm betting they crossed paths a lot. (Unless, say, one was limited to Sydney and the other to Melbourne, or something.)

Trying to think who the points of connection would be, but it beats me. There's definitely a difference in stuff like the Celibate Rifles (non-pigfuck) and the Cosmic Psychos (uber-pigfuck) though.

grong grong were heavily influenced by the birthday party and the australian x. and american bands like flipper. i think there really were different camps. though probably everyone liked, you know, the stooges and stuff. mc5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wE5i4chtos

^ actually maybe they're not scuzzy enough but has there been a more pigfuck video? (nsfw btw)

I'm glad someone fondly remembers Silverfish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhxiewNTAEI

blue (they were from philly, awesome + totally unsung, I think ian digs them too)

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awesome band! picked up a copy of their solid state lp a while back. singer's got a weird, nasally voice, reminiscent of reverb motherfuckers guy (and steel pole bath tub guy), but nerdier and sometimes quite annoying. paint peeling guitar noise redeems everything, though. woozy druggy and not consistently harsh/fucked-up enough to really square w pigfuck in my book, but def worth a listen. features an epic, super psychedelic cover of brian wilson's "baby let your hair grow long".

also u-men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxS48yOwfI&feature=related

bad vid, but they're not well documented

yeah, love blue. I've got two of the demo tapes they released in the early 90s. I should dig 'em out and upload, here's a track from one for the curious.

http://www.mediafire.com/?122dygmyqg0

fungus brains getting reissued on load records is what I heard

That is a fine act of human kindness