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Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Issues tackled at the conference speak to how many things can be discerned from studying names -- chosen names, given names, place names, product names, names in fiction and names in history. In the "Queer Names'' panel alone, vast stores of cultural information were mined from, for instance, the methodical study of gay male porn names. Who knew that although drag queens usually employ sexual innuendo or humor in their stage names, it is strikingly uncommon for male gay porn stars to do so? Apparently, bland names are perceived to be more attractive.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

]At another wedding Gregg Kaminsky and his partner wore matching Burberry ties. They tied a Burberry scarf around their dog, a Jack Russell terrier, and sent him racing up the aisle with their wedding rings.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998, but in an era where no one watches MTV any more.

This album sucks, Kanye got on the synth bandwagon too late and hasn't figured them out yet. He's trying to replace the old retro-soul-vibe with this hamfisted future aesthetic (those idiotic glasses!) but cannot pull it off. I blame new friends and the addiction to that drug... uh, I guess he said fame in that mixtape, so nm.

P.S. Did I hurt you guyses feelings?

-- Gavin, Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:35 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I agree that Kanye's synth work on the album could be better and it's kind of a weird aesthetic fit for him, and that the 'futuristic' videos/clothes are cheesy and he's letting A-Trak or whoever turn him onto some wack hipster shit. But, as a great man once said: "No hard feelings. You just sound like a chump."

Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont think his synth work is that bad at all. its not like hes trying to sound like say, jeezys producers. hes just trying to combine it with his own thing.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i like those glasses

max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

my dad used to have a pair like that in red

max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

This is by far his best album, imo, but that's coming from someone who liked about 75% of his first one, maybe 50% of his second and, despite thinking he's an awesome producer, I've never liked his flow, or most of his lyrics.

Suffice it to say, the production, lyrics and flow on this album are by far his most solid. He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

He's still not the greatest rapper, but this is definitely a solid album. "Drunk and Hot girls" was a grower, but I love that track now. And "Everything I Am" with the primo scratches is awesome.

Much like with the new Arcade Fire, an artist who I found to have an overrated album / persona came back with an album that actually justified their hype, proving that I'm not always an elitist asshole who hates popular music.

Erock Zombie, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

you mean "rhyming"?

max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i have totally been on the nuts of 'good life' all day today. thanks emoti-kanye.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link

He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

Don't ever fix your lips like collagen
then say something where you gon end up apologin
Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously max otm.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah totally, i like those verses, not annoying to me.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i know i was being sarcastic but i cant parse the sentence "that... thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over" any other way

max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

He uses the 'word' "apologin"!!

From what i've heard, "Good Life" is easily the best track, and I attribute 65% of its awesomeness to T. Pain's contribution...30% to the beat (Go PYT sample!)...5% to Kanye's verses (obv. Kanye's production belongs in that 95% chunk...I love how he treates T. Pain as an instrument rather than as some quirky guest vocalist)

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, 65% is a bit high. Give more to the beat.

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link

if "champion" doesn't end up being a single i'll probably end up liking it the best a year from now as one of those tracks on his albums that are as good as the singles but since it isn't a single you don't get tired of hearing it ("spaceship," get 'em high," "drive slow," "gone" etc.)

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

altho i guess drive slow was a single (or had a video) but it didn't do shit so it doesn't really count.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"A-Trak is a part of our whole scene. He plays everything across the board. He just loves music. I know he introduced Kanye to a lot of things, one thing in particular was the movie Anchorman (laughs). And now Kayne quotes the movie in his songs all the time and you can hear it."

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

-- Tape Store, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 4:44 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

oh man, the long long pause between those two lines is infuriating. also "they say I talk with so much emphasis..................ooh they so sensitive!"

I don't think anyone should want to take credit for 'introducing' Kanye to <i>Anchorman</i>, I mean he was quoting shit like <i>Happy Gilmore</i> well before that anyway. Kanye is like a walking Snorg shirt.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

A-Trak understands the importance of the dress.

mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

the problem with kanye

for example these two lines:
Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

that second one is completely extraneous

this seems to be the case for almost 25% of his lyrics
if my calculations are correct

kl0pper, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I just cannot get into this album. I loved his first, this is my least favourite of his albums

Rowlando, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Does "Stronger" sound any different from the single version on anyone's copy of the album? Kanye said in a few recent interviews that he had Timbaland re-do the drums for the LP version of the song at the last minute, but it sounds exactly the same as it did before on the copy I downloaded. Maybe it'll be the new version on the retail CD next week, though?

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Why does "Drunk and Hot Girls" completely steal the vocal melody from a Can song? ("Sing Swan Song")

rockapads, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

It takes a lot more than that, if you'd listen further or read more upthread.

mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Huh, I always thought Donald Fagen was saying "Italian," not "champion."

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Does "Stronger" sound any different from the single version on anyone's copy of the album? Kanye said in a few recent interviews that he had Timbaland re-do the drums for the LP version of the song at the last minute, but it sounds exactly the same as it did before on the copy I downloaded. Maybe it'll be the new version on the retail CD next week, though?

-- Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:46 (2 hours ago) Link

my version of stronger sounds the same, too.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Huh, I always thought Donald Fagen was saying "Italian," not "champion."

-- jaymc, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 7:00 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol @ "did you realize you were Italian in their eyes." paging Passantino...

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i just spent like 30 seconds trying to figure out what 'raging passantino' meant

-- and what (ooo), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:57 (10 months ago) Link

deej, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i don't think 'stronger's sounds any different either. BUT it is different to me in that i heard it out the other night and it suddenly made total trashtalking dickhead/way insecure drunken sense, like how the way the sample's so big and confident and clumsily executed with all the "god put you in front of me / so how the hell could you front on me" stuff

still not good sober, mind.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i feel the same way about cant tell me nothin

and what, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty happy with the album really. i think the thing with kanye is he always treads that very fine line wrt him being a completey annoying arsehole, and it's the very small things that validate that stuff in your head; i wz kinda dreading another overblown 'late registration' epic (even though that was still great at the time) as much as i feared a shiny jap hipster dinky toy horror like where 'stronger' and the mixtape suggested he was at, and so even though you do still get all of that stuff in this one the presence of the simpler oldskool roc type stuff leaves you with the impression of the dorky likeable kanye from 03 you like to think still exists somewhere, or ever existed even. haha like smiling/shaking yr head to that "buy any jeans necessary" line for instance.

xp 4real i never got that irl chance with 'nothing' but i can totally imagine the same thing happening, yeah

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

hearing t-pain and kanye together is really satisfying too, i always kinda thought when t-pain came out it was like a rnb kanye in that same really talented outsider dork vibe

and you know t-pain's next album is probly gonna be some ridiculously overambitious carcrash too

r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh and why the fuck isn't Mos Def rapping anymore i swear that man needs a slap to make him stop making films and doing odd singing and get back to writing fantastic lyrics. Wanker.

Rowlando, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

rtc totally otm

deej, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

like, point by point

deej, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if this has gone unmentioned because it's blindingly obvious or if I really am the only one to notice, but: "Big Brother" is a MIDI "Dead Presidents."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

"I Wonder" is fuckin great.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 07:25 (sixteen years ago) link

He uses the 'word' "apologin"!!

a rapper NOT USING THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH??

my stars! i passed out with the vapors on my fainting couch when i heard the news..luckily my butler stepped in to loosen my cravat! however, this news weighed heavy on my mind, i was scarcely able to enjoy rigoletto that night at the opera.

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

it's not that he used a gramatically incorrect slang word, it's that he dropped a syllable out of a word to force a stupid fucking rhyme.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm better than my competa, you mean competitor, whadeva!

Gavin, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

omg, i'm fighting off a gang o lols; ilm's gonna get me kicked outta the public library wtf

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^fennessey??

and what, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

don't you wish, ethan!

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wait, did you mean "are you, beatrix kiddo, laughing at all the sean jokes? or the ye dialectic?" it's the former, i promise.

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

it's not that he used a gramatically incorrect slang word, it's that he dropped a syllable out of a word to force a stupid fucking rhyme.

EXACTLY!

I'm totally behind Umbrella ('cause that extra syllable is for a good cause)

Tape Store, Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck yall kweli haters he just dropped a gem with styles

luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.zshare.net/audio/33132426817093/

my mistake, it ain't

luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link


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