Rolling Teenpop 2006 Thread

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Tim--when you double and quadruple vocals, you inevitably get a sort of wavering tone--like Amy Lee on the beginning of "Call Me When You're Sober", except that starts out as a single vox, then a double as an intended effect.

Obviously, Lee has a swell voice--so if even she gets that frequency-beating effect--like most folks--no, all folks--do, then Hilton's must be corrected for that silky rayon sound.

And the punch-ins--well, the songs' melodies are very punch-in-friendly, and while I'm guessing, I can't imagine Hilton would be able to do entire takes--and really, why bother trying. That's not a dis on her; it's just a way of making stuff.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, you can actually *hear* the auto-tune on Lohan's voice sometimes, but it hardly matters. What she lacks in singing experience--she *has* a voice--she more than makes up for in framatic chops, which she to spare.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link

er--"dramatic" chops. I don't know how good her framaticism is.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian I totally thought you meant to use "framatic chops". I decided it meant something like "knows how to frame a lyric with the perfect vocal performance of it".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

What I maybe like best about the Megan McCauly track at the moment is that it's like the potential of "U and Ur Hand" realized (different subject matter, she's going after the guy this time, but the chorus doesn't depend on a lame joke and it's still funny and there's still basically a punchline of sorts referenced in the title). And it's the perfect union of not only what Pink is trying to do, but what Marion Raven and a few others are doing, which is the absorption of Evanescence in the Luke/Max formula. Kind of amazing that it juggles all of these things effectively, in a way it might be the Luke/Max track of the year that isn't "4ever" (if Paris doesn't count, since it's just Luke).

According to Perez Hilton and Jessica P and Myspace, fan_3 is in a new band. They didn't write the track of the year. Shut Up Stella...listening to "Country Lemonade" now, kind of a nice silly c. 2000 teenpop throwback like Daphne and Celeste with...I dunno, B*Witched maybe in the chorus + some funny fan_3 verses ("I'm gonna get so Big and Rich -- shit -- and get high with the Dixie Chicks") OK, maybe this is the best thing ever.

"What sets the group apart from the status quo is their wide range of musical influences. The combination of Fan_3s hip hop background, Kristens SoCal punk rock and Jessies singer-songwriter world gives their music a refreshingly unique and surprisingly catchy edge, as if someone laced an Eve and Green Day sandwich with a healthy dose of Spice."

A very healthy dose of Spice, if by Spice they mean the first wave of post-Spice teenpop.

nameom (nameom), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone know how I can get in contact with Storch for interview? Apparently he is "in between" handlers right now. I've got space in a paper promised if I can get the interview. :-P

Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Shut Up Stella are great! They are my new discovery of the moment, although not quite beating Tap That for aceness so far.

I'm not sure exactly what my problem is with Hilary because she seems in theory to be a great pop star but there's just this sense of trying too hard which I find kind of embarrassing. Like many US pop acts, she has good intentions with her pop-rock and electro-pop singles, but somewhere along the line something is going wrong because she's doing the kind of music I love and I am just not interested at all. I've nothing against Hilary herself, although she could do with being a bit more 'rough around the edges', but I just don't connect to her music at all. Some of her songs I don't mind listening to eg. Come Clean and Beat of My Heart, but I've never made any particular effort to listen to them. It could just be my personal taste doesn't match with her musical output, but it seems strange when I usually love electro-pop and rock-pop and I wouldn't consider myself particularly fussy. I just think for such a big star she really is not making as good music as she has the power to do. Her greatest hits was a US no.1 so it can't be difficult to get good producers on board, but for some reason she's never made a song that I've downloaded and played more than once immediately. I don't know if it's just me or if I'm right and she really isn't as good as she should be.

Jessica P (Jessica P), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

hello, thread!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello, Sterling. Nice to see you again.

Thread (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Vanessa Anne Hudgens' "Come Back To Me" still seems weak, though I'm growing to tolerate her voice more. I'm surprised at how '80s r&b it sounds - I could imagine Paula Abdul doing this (except she'd reject it for being boring). Paula pushed her voice more, which might have been irritating but which helped to make her chirpy whine distinctive. "Come Back to Me" is getting a relatively poor 18 plays (still behind "We're All In This Together" and "Breaking Free," which have been around for months, and I've finally promoted "Breaking Free" to the category Good Song, even if it is HSM).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Relatively poor 18 plays on Radio Disney, that is. It's getting fewer in my house.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Latest news from Brie Larson:

PHONECALLS ARE GREAT
here are some highlights from the one I just had with Sir Mimster.

G: I hate you.
B: I can't stand you.
G: No, I can't stand YOU.
B: Well, I'm sitting down.

or also.

B: Dude, there was 18,000 people there.
G: Shit.
B: I KNOW. I did a show once for 6,000 people and it was too much for me to handle.
G: Thats like, more than double.
B: Well, its closer to "less than triple"
G: Yeah.
B: Yeah.
G: Hey, ISN'T it triple?
B: No.
G: 6,000 times 3 is....
B: 18,000.
G: Right.
B: Oh uuuuhhhhh. Shut up.

In other news. I like:
1.) the sound of pennies falling.
2.) my armpit smells like dogfood.
3.) "pool's gone."
4.) friend request from The Morning Benders.
5.) the beast.
6.) diva eating dunkaroos.
7.) distance has no way of making love, understandable.
8.) blue.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ANOTHER NEW LOOK FOR ASHLEE
First the nose, now...

[I didn't get a chance to read the piece, however. The headline was in a sidebox on the cover of I forget which tab, so one can predict that the article is approximately a paragraph and doesn't tell us a whole lot about Ashlee. Oh, and Us Weekly believes that Jessica has a new boyfriend.]

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

and Us Weekly believes that Jessica has a new boyfriend.] -- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), September 6th, 2006.

Singer John Mayer, who's currently on tour with Sheryl Crow. There's some tab headline about how "a friend says he makes her heart flutter" or something like that.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

But does he make her endorphins dance?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe Aliana Lohan (Lindsay's little sister) will follow the Hilary Duff route? Starting with her Xmas album (but no singles preceding it)...

http://www.tommy2.net/2006newsgraphics/alilohanearly.jpg

nameom (nameom), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got one of those Voice mini-reviews due for Platinum Weird in, um, like, well, 6 hours ago and I still haven't figured out why the album isn't better. I'd certainly recommend you listen to it, especially to "Avalanche" and "Somebody to Love" (both have got a good Rolling Stones groove motion, among other things) and "Will You Be Around" and "Crying at the Disco" and "All My Sorrow" - the last of which is too lethargic but has a moment in the refrain where Kara sings "Your sorrow, too," and the piano does a little descent that's as sweetly, sadly gorgeous as the piano in "Fly." On four of the album's tracks John Shanks joined Stewart and DioGuardi in the songwriting, and those are four of the five I just mentioned (all except "Will You Be Around"). (Btw, the album version of "Will You Be Around" is far better than the one on Platinum Weird's MySpace page, where they pretend it was sung by the fictitious Erin Grace so Kara makes her voice go round and burnished.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

(Nothing about the promo campaign for Platinum Weird makes any sense to me. It's built around a barely amusing 25-minute mockumentary about how the young drug-addled Dave Stewart was captivated by the mysterious and flighty Erin Grace, with whom he formed a band in the early '70s that enthralled record company execs and luminaries such as Mick Jagger and Elton John and George Harrison. Platinum Weird were all set to record their album when Erin disappeared, leaving a demo tape as the band's legacy. What strikes me as odd about this mockumentary, beyond the fact that I can't figure out why anyone thought this witless story would help sell a record album in the '00s, is that Dave Stewart's actual taste in musical partners isn't for flighty and mysterious femmes but for deep-voiced toughies like Annie, Barbara, and Kara (and Mick, for that matter). And maybe the sad underlying truth is that for this record's target audience (Mainstream Top 40? Adult Contemporary?), the fact that Kara helped create a substantial amount of the best pop music of the last six years is considered less likely to sell the record than is a connection to the vapid fictional nonentity Erin Grace. And that'd be because most of the performers (e.g., Ashlee, Lindsay, Hilary, Paris) she made her music with have zero cred, Kelly being the major exception. Or maybe there was just going to be no promo budget anyway, so Dave took the opportunity to finance his own thing, which he thought would be a hilarious way to poke fun at his past. I wonder what Kara thinks of all this. Maybe she's most comfortable playing second fiddle. She wants to come second, even to a nonentity.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, to the album itself. It's in the Fleetwood Mac/Sheryl Crow pop-rock line, which was good in its day but has fallen into dullness in the '00s, Shanks assisting in the dullness (he helped with Sheryl's and Stevie's recent albs). Kara's got a strong voice and she's going to use it, so at the end of some of these tracks she'll go to gospel-based fireworks, shouting and vamping over the background vocals. This is kind of so-what, maybe 'cause what she's saying is kind of so-what. What I said upthread about the lyrics to "Avalanche" not jelling is even more true of the rest of the songs. "When the rain comes tumblin', tumblin' down, will you be around, will you be around/When the pain starts comin', comin' out, will you be around, will you be around?" is well-crafted(those "tumblin's and comin's" are well-designed to be sung) but the idea is hackneyed even for weather imagery. (Compare to the rather startling "Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams/Let it wash away my sanity" in Hilary's "Come Clean.") "The tears on my face come down like rain." "Don't want to be alone on this planet they call Earth" - like, as opposed to being on some other planet? "Have you thrown a wish into the ocean/And watched it slowly float away." (In my notes, right after I wrote that one down, I said, "You know, I'm not looking for bad lines. I'm just writing things down as they hit me.") "Let's go back to living, instead of always throwing love away." "Only love can kill the blues." On the album's first track she sings "There's never pleasure without any pain," which you could say is the theme of the second Ashlee album - to see the light you need the dark, etc. - but Ashlee's found a way to build stories around this, giving her albums ten times the emotional complication and intellectual restlessness of anyone else's. While on the Platinum Weird album you have imagery with no story to connect to, so it ends up as floating platitudes. I'd pretty much guessed that Ashlee herself brought the complication and restlessness and that Kara and John helped her make them articulate. But now I think Ashlee might have brought the articulateness as well. Maybe Kara needs her own Kara DioGuardi, someone to do for her what she did for Lindsay, draw her out, find a way to make her words and sounds into her words and sounds.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I just built a Pandora station off "Since U Been Gone" and "Kiss" and some other stuff but those are the two it seems to be favoring. Started off with a run of pop-punk, then some soul that I mostly vetoed (sorry) and then some odd choices (B-52s, Big Audio Dynamite!) and now it's into some solid teenpop (Veronicas, Liz Phair) but it's already given me a few things I'm totally surprised and pleased by: "Tena's Song" by Foxy (which I know nothing about but like) and "Only One Too" by Jewel which is actually fairly awesome! And now Aly and AJ of course, which I don't think I like. Anyway, I had no idea the Jewel was that good, nice and Matrix-y. It's interesting that it went in a much more teenpop direction once I added "Gigantic."

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"Collapsed"? That's the only Aly and AJ song I've ever heard on Pandora for some reason. Jewel's teenpop turn is generally overlooked (compared to, say, Liz Phair), but what I've heard of it is awesome. And yeah, it's cool to see Pandora attempt to define the "roots" of teenpop empirically. My editing has been kind of heavy-handed lately, though, when they build from an unlikely (often good) choice, it tends to venture quickly into stuff I don't like. Six degrees of separation, but in two turns it's twelve, etc.

Still haven't heard any Platinum Weird outside Myspace.

nameom (nameom), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, "Collapsed." It just sounded mooshy next to...well, actually, now that I look I see it actually came after a song from Somebody's Miracle so that's not a good sign.

I've never heard any of Jewel's last two albums, so yeah, it was a pleasant surprise. Everybody was saying the last one was a "return to form" etc., I didn't know it was produced by Rob Carvello (sp?). It's interesting to hear other people's take on the Max/Matrix sound.

It's all making me think about the confessional element that Frank pegs to teenpop vs. the way other genres do it--in everything from hip-hop to indie to country it seems like the impulse is to "take things down for a second" whereas teenpop has somehow managed to round out punk's angsty sneer into a shout from the belly by crossing it with all that low-key stuff. Pandora's nice for trying to figure things out technically.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ASHLEE
Her New Man And Her New Hair

(Headline turns out to be fraudulent, however. There's nothing about her hair.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 9 September 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Eppy, this is the Aly & A.J. song that matters.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 9 September 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Ohhh no it isn't!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 9 September 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Never heard "Tena's Song." Foxy were a '70s Latin disco-funk band (forerunner of freestyle) from Miami led by Ish Ledesma; biggest hit was Get Off. Then in the '80s Ledesma put together Company B, who scored big with the absolutely wonderful and catchy and bright and salacious "Fascinated." I presume that's Ish on keybs in the video.

And I'm now way off-topic, but here's a clip from a recent live show by Debbie Deb, who's darker, fatter, and happier than when I saw her 19 years ago.* Poor recording, not auto-tuned, but wonderful anyway. (*Someone once told me that the Debbie Deb who did "I'm Searchin'" wasn't the same Debbie Deb who'd done "When I Hear Music," in which case the person I saw - who definitely was the "I'm Searchin'" Deb, same timbre - was an impersonator trying to cash in on the name. I doubt this, but it would somehow prove something amazing if it were true, since I rank it as one of the Top 5 live performances of my life.) Here's a continuation of the clip from the Anaheim show, in which she's singing my favorite song EVER. They pipe in a sample at the start that someone on the comment thread identifies as from "Planet Rock," which demonstrates the connection between Bambaataa/Baker/Robie and freestyle (not to mention Miami bass, bounce, crunk, snap...). The deep beat on "When I Hear Music" is a slight variation on the deep beat from "Planet Rock." But you can hear something revving up in "When I Hear Music" - even though it's a very spare arrangement - the riffs and beats heading for delirium and the sweetness of the vocals (and desperation of the vocals in the New York equivalents) having its own potential delirium.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 9 September 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Bloodsky, did Aly & A.J. do that themselves, or did a native Simarian do it for them, manipulating their voices electronically? (The comment thread seems unclear on this point.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 9 September 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops, I duped the "Rush" link into what was supposed to be my "Get Off" link. Here's the right one.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 9 September 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

From what I can tell it's an official release - it got given a full-blown 'premiere' on Yahoo! Launch, which would suggest a record company tie-in with The Sims itself. I can't remember whether or not I actually read that somewhere, though.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 10 September 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anybody know anything about Lil Chris? He seems pretty good.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 11 September 2006 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

buying the tabs this week, i had an uncomfortable chat with the clerk, who kept trying to convince me of the utter fuckability of jessica, in that conpiteral, straight boys away from their women tone that i have never been able to master...

(two thots:
1) i have never had anyone tell me jessica was fuckable
2) she has stopped becoming interesting)

also apparently she fired her pr guy overthe john mayer rumours, and also john mayer is a beatty in the 70s sized pussy hound.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 06:02 (seventeen years ago) link

also, isnt the whole mockumentary thing, the plot for the gnarls barkley video, not the crazy one but the one with dennis hoppeR?

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

John Mayer seems like such a random match for Jessica. He's not that attractive and not much of a celebrity.

Lil Chris was on a reality show called Rock School where Gene Simmons taught classical music school kids to perform rock music. It was a rip-off of the movie School Of Rock really. Now he's got a deal with RCA to release his first single Checkin' Me Out and it's quite popular on Radio 1 so should at least be a small hit. I really don't think he has a big career ahead of him though.

Jessica P (Jessica P), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Article about HSM in the Guardian today: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,1869657,00.html

Jessica P (Jessica P), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Brie Larson linked to Grak (?) covering "Seven Nation Army." I haven't found anything else about them yet. I'm pretty sure they're saying "hounds of heck."

nameom (nameom), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, there it is:

Each member of the group is an honor roll student, as well as a star in his own mind. Each has an alias, the first of which is the singer, ten year old Austin, aka “Piper”. His vocal abilities are truly rock and roll. The bass player, nine year old Garrett, aka “Soul Man” holds down the bottom like he was born in Motown in the early sixties. Add to this mixture eight year old lead guitarist Kevin, aka “Shredder” who’s manic adventures onstage are truly a joy to watch. And last, but not least nine year old Rodney, aka ”Sticks” beats the skins like he’s mad at his bigger brothers, but with a little more rhythm. Put all this together and you get the smokin’ sounds of a truly remarkable “little man” band.

nameom (nameom), Monday, 11 September 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! Came here to post a link to that Grak vid. They crush the original.

Here's what I know about Rock School:

Gene Simmons had this reality show on British TV where he takes a bunch of kids and turns them into a rock band and they get to open for someone big like Anthrax. First series he takes some classical musician types and gets them to go rock. Second series he goes to a poorer school and recruits a number of kids and initial lead singer goes on vacation so they choose another one but then first one comes back and they have a quarterback controversy and finally first one gets the nod and second one gets the boot, the concert airs, a week later first singer gets a call from a major label and they get to work on a single; meanwhile second singer forms a band with other members of the rock school crew and they go indie rock. First singer's name is Lil Chris, whom you know about (and he's not a classical musician; they were in the first series). Second singer is Ellie, and they call their band Upraw and here's their MySpace. Chris is better. He can't really keep in tune, so he's found a way to sing where this doesn't matter, basically swallowing his tongue. It works, though listening to it may get tiring over the course of 12 songs. Anyway, his style is his own invention, I'm sure. You can't teach someone to sing like that. His album's due in October sometime.

So, I disagree about no career for Chris.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened at random to a bunch more Grak tracks and none came close to "Seven Nation Army." Live sound is hard to get well, and maybe the spareness of "Seven Nation Army" helped it to come across.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hoku's back in the studio according to her (relatively recent) Myspace page. The songs are free for download, too.

nameom (nameom), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Somehow, Grak's "Seven Nation Army" is a miracle, better than the original while delivering what the original should have delivered on its own, maybe 'cause of having a real rhythm section and not getting caught up in Jack's mannerisms. But the Grak singer can't cut it on any other songs. The bass player and drummer seem to be the talents here. The bass guy doesn't play w/ authority, but he's found his way to the basic blob-throb of his instrument. 'Tis what makes "Seven Nation Army" work. That and the footstomp. The band's self-written songs sound as if they could be good ones, if they get recorded and performed better. The kids seem to want to be Green Day.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Today seems to be Hoku day (here and at Poptimists, though maybe M. le Bedbug is responsible for both appearances). "The Burrito Song" is wonderful and I recommend you take advantage of the free download. Her music had a light airy feel, so she kind of got forgotten between sex-babe Britney and the rock-confessional teens who followed (as did Vitamin C and M2M). I can't tell from her Webpage whether she does weddings or merely had one. And I hadn't previously known she was a Ho. (Oh God! The poor kid! Can you imagine how often she's had to hear that crack?)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, other way around, Poptimists tipped me off, forget why she was mentioned in the first place. I subscribed to her blog since whatever happens will probably go there first at this point, including whatever comes out of the studio.

Oh God! The poor kid!
I dunno, she's got like nine siblings to share insults.

nameom (nameom), Thursday, 14 September 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone had suggested "Poptimism is...hoku not haiku" as a community slogan.

I myself believe that the hoku-haiku dialectic can be transcended.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

(It was Kat's sister Grace)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

BODY OBSESSION
Ashlee wants more plastic surgery!

Friends fear LINDSAY'S ELOPED

(Also, Nicole and Lindsay gloat over Paris's arrest.) (What arrest? How come nobody tells me anything?)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 17 September 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Amy Diamond's "Don't Cry Your Heart Out," live. I like this almost as much as "What's In It For Me?" and I like the singing more. Lite reggae rhythm, as usual, but notice how she puts some classy jazz-blues tones right out of '50s lounge music onto the line "no one cries for you." And there's the fast phrasing on "Then you see then you know that you reap what you sow so don't weep no don't go cry your heart out," which feels very B-way showbiz. But the manner in which Amy performs them, neither of these stylings - which from most people I consider "unemotional" - lose any warmth.

(Got the link to "Don't Cry Your Heart Out" from the Teen Cultural Revolution blog.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 17 September 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Another Bedbug discovery, Standing Waltz's "Each Day." There's a big crunch with organ embedded in it, then a pretty voice arises from the mung and a sweet melody keeps getting sweeter. Sounds like A LOT OF FUN POWER POP NEW WAVE PUNK ROCK (says their MySpace page).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 17 September 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The link upthread to Aly & A.J.'s "Rush" no longer works, so here's a new one. Eppy wrote "in everything from hip-hop to indie to country it seems like the impulse is to 'take things down for a second' whereas teenpop has somehow managed to round out punk's angsty sneer into a shout from the belly by crossing it with all that low-key stuff." Is this an example of what you mean? It starts droning, with the mood somewhere between reflective and dramatic, then it starts to get excited, then it lets loose with wails and tunes and yeah yeah yeahs. I said it reminded me of the Fairport Convention, for drones that build up into a payoff.

(Of course on Radio Disney the "confessional" sound has mostly given way to HSM's and Cheetah Girls and Hannah Montana's rah-rah.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 18 September 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

(Of course the setup for a whole slew of verse-chorus songs is that the verse parts tend to subdue the melody and the vocal pyrotechnics, so that singing isn't that far from talking - and then in the chorus everything lets loose, harmonies, call-and-response, melisma.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 18 September 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link


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