― mark s, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Does Morrissey count? Biography of the NY Dolls, load of rejected criticism in the late 80s, etc etc.
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mt, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Swygart, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
How many would you like? It's annoying that whenever this question is trotted out the same dull names are always cited - Lester Bangs, Bob Stanley, Chrissie Hynde, myself even. Morrissey wrote far less than all the people on the above list; yet he always gets mentioned.
There are tens of thousands (the list above took me 5 minutes to compile)... and, if you start including people like Taylor and Neil, then it goes on and on. It's the norm for writers to dabble in music, not otherwise. And vice versa.
And I haven't even begun to touch on DJs.
― Jerry, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
In that case I violate the norm. Then again, I'm astoundingly lazy.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've just had to read through an entire 340 page manuscript AGAIN - and found mistakes on the chapter headings. Why don't book companies employ proof readers?
And yes, it is far too early for me to be up.
― maryann, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yancey, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I feel it most days. Maybe I'm not, who knows!
That reminds me... isn't that Negativland interview a little overdue... like eight months?
I'll be reviewing the new album, but beyond that I'm despairing of ever getting that together. I can try again, though!
I think there's a better case to be made for this in the world of film where you have the whole Cahiers du Cinema crowd: Godard, Truffaut, etc. I can't think of a comparable accomplishment by a music critic. Of course there's Jim Greer who went from being an avid Guided By Voices backer at Spin to being a bassist for the band, but you have to wonder how much talent that requires.
― o. nate, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Regarding the Cahiers du Cinema crowd...well, correct me if I'm wrong - I've only started reading some of their stuff, but wasn't the magazine essentially a collaborative personal effort. (ie - not for money/pay?) That's always the impression I've had. I think that all real musicians have some next-level critical skills. But I would guess that the criticism coming from musicians would be more likely found at a place like Freaky Trigger/ILM than as a gun for hire at a rag like Rolling Stone.
In other words, the real critics fled to the internet, websites, and blogs.
Snobbish and elitist? Of course. That's what I'm into.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 19 January 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Sunday, 19 January 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 19 January 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Sunday, 19 January 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
A ?UESTION: re STEVE LAKE ?! a great, great writer -- but has he ever made music himself? the reason i'm asking, i saw some catalogue once, and there were a coupla records listed where Steve Lake seemed to be credited as one of the performers; as these were Improv kinda things, it *could* been him... but has anybody here actually HEARD a 'Steve Lake record'?
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 19 January 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Evan (Evan), Monday, 20 January 2003 03:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 20 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― another one (another one), Monday, 20 January 2003 11:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sandy k, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
doveman.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Charles Rosen, excellent at both btw
― Now, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Robert Forster
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
wasn't chrissie hynde a music journo originally?
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Had no idea that Chris Richards was in Q and Not U.
Spent the holidays digging through boxes and was pleased to find myself in excellent company. Entertainment Weekly Oct. 8, 2004 pic.twitter.com/t1BltlQDod— Chris _ _ Richards (@Chris__Richards) January 1, 2018
― Beret McKesson (jaymc), Monday, 1 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
Robert Schumann.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link