taking sides: epmd vs. gangstarr

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since when are we not allowed to use 'the n- word' on ilm?

ethan, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh and brandon's right about everything, shame about the racism then.

ethan, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh ethan, we're *allowed* to do what we want. I just don't rilly like running into it.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Straight up and down, EPMD are aiight(if you exclude everything parish has down over the past 5 years) but the GANG to the STARR are iller than the flu. I'm not going to get started on Primo's beats. Just listen for yourself. That nigga has dropped some of the hardest beats for MOP, JAY-Z, NAS, FREDDIE FOXX, JERU, AFU-RA, ROYCE DA 5'9", KOOL G RAP, CNN, RAKIM, RAH DIGGA, DIALATED PEOPLES, BIG DADDY KANE, BIG L, CANIBUS, MOS DEF, BIGGIE SMALLS, O.C., FAT JOE, even Janet Jackson, Brandy, and Madonna were blessed with a Primo beat. The reason a lot of you don't know that shit is cause he ain't dancin' in videos like them Neptune fags. Next up, the 7, 21, 18, 21. For the heads that don't know, that's Guru. Nobody can call this nigga lame. If you wanna talk about lame talk about NORE, PRODIGY, FOXY, DRE., CAPADONNA, TOO SHORT, and TRICK DADDY. Yeah these niggas sell records but they ain't got no mic skills. This is just a sample of Guru.

"First and foremost, some rappers are sweet like fructose When I cock back these lyrics, y'all punks best be ghost I be the seven twenty-one, eighteen twenty-one The illest one, I'm almost doper than anyone Straight out the late nights of Bed-Stuy Steppin up, y'all put your weapons up, I make heads fly You're artificial like saccarhin You're crazy fake, it's more than skills you be lackin in Concepts you bite, cause your identity ain't tight Tryin to be somethin you're not, like pullin a knife at a gunfight"

"I'm type slick, known as the God Universal Kick rhymes without rehearsal, I cross the burnin sands Now I stand here with virtue, of course I could hurt you simply with my point of view, and I knew that many would come, that's why I've chosen to cut off pathways, and there's no runways or doorways open for the jokers who ain't focused And all the fake mercenaries get buried by the tongue of terrifying fury Nothing's blurry, fuck it I got no worries Hearts and minds, shine bright light with insight Yeah sense my birthright to set up cyphers with power cause mad shit ain't right, like punks in the spotlight who can't freestyle, sometimes I make my peeps smile by sayin somethin crazy wild like some shit off my dome, that be soundin better than the next man's whole album..."

"Yo, I be your highness, in slickness, you chumps bear witness Tremendous tropper, verbal nigga witht he fitness Drop you for your spot with the blazer then I blast ya Slice precise like ?fenny hanas? when I come to bring the dramas Styles so swift, that you can't peep the God as your lyrics get buried, six feet deep in my backyard I laugh hard, while your mental I run through mazes Dark stages of terror to shatter your dressing room mirror Your whole error gets crushed, your whole show gets bumrushed Too many dumb punks, want to enter this rap scene Kickin Willie Bobo, but need to be slapped clean into oblivion, the true champion always rises I bring surprises to the chief plus their advisers Size me up, and you will find nothing's larger Catch more wreck on your dome, than a deranged fuckin barber So what you made some dough, you best keep on scramblin All your vanity, is instantly crushed, when I start handlin Demandin that you pay, for your weak rhyme display Coast to coast, I break the fakes everyday"

None of yaw'll can tell me that those ain't some ill lines. This niggas been hittin us with pure hip hop since '89. Gangstarr is true hip hop and if you can't feel that then I'm afraid that your back pack fell off at the last Lil Kim concert.

OMEGA, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Gangstarr.

Shonuff^, Friday, 24 January 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like them both a lot, and listen to both pretty often, but it's Gang Starr for me, one of the great hip hop acts of all time, despite Guru's leanings towards dreary jazzy stuff at times.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 24 January 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

five years pass...

fake mcs
they always act hard
but wont walk the streets without they bodyguards

and what, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

gawd I was just thinking about this today czu I've been listening to both almost extensively. tempted to go w/ Gang Starr (cuz Guru is unfairly hated on and Premier was in his element) but it feels wrong to slight the EPMD.

San Te, Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I was thinking about this, unprompted, at the beach today too! steam-engine time.

Gang Starr are pretty underwhelmingly samey a LOT of the time. EPMD get a shitload of mileage out of their own limitations, and have enough variety beyond the "classic" "headnodder" track that their monotony as rappers isn't shown up as much as Guru's.

Also, Jazzamatazzzzzzzz.

it's in my backpack (sic), Sunday, 3 April 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link


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