you're going to systematically ruin every band i like, huh
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
if by 'systematically ruin' you mean 'bump ILX threads of to praise' then yeah fuck you're in for a rough ride
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
you say that my enthusiastic bumps are frequently contentless but dude if I analysed the awesome musical narratives and fucked sonics of this group to any depth you'd hate it even more, trust
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
what I wanna know is how it's taken until now for me to hear it, and on the recommendation of my brother, instead of one of you august critics
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Love these guys. I wrote a glowing review of Absence for Static Multimedia way back when. I'd link to it, but its sort of embarrassing to re-read now as it was like one of the first published reviews I ever wrote.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Heard Abandoned Language first; mind moderately blown. Now on Absence and holy shitting Christ.
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
what I wanna know is how it's taken until now for me to hear it, and on the recommendation of my brother, instead of one of you august critics― acoleuthic, Thursday, April 1, 2010 6:06 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― acoleuthic, Thursday, April 1, 2010 6:06 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you just gotta keep up w/ me
http://nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/61881/
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
also, stop posting
dude quit bitchin', marry yr gf and have a fucken baby or 3
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
never got into these dudes' recordings that much but saw them a couple of times at my college and they were great live, so loud and oppressive. the first time they opened for paul barman at a frat house (LOL) and blew him off the "stage" (of course). the second time, my pseudo-no wave band opened for them at the on-campus fake bar/venue. we were pretty bad.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL apparently I posted about that show like eight years ago:
They are totally kick-ass and extremely loud. Not traditional hip-hop by any means. Very dense and scary sounding. My band opened for them here last week. They are indeed very nice people. As soon as I walked in the door, the producer guy, Octopus, started talking to me and talked my ear off (in a nice way) for about 20 minutes about Ipecac and Mike Patton and all kinds of stuff. Go for it.
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, November 7, 2002 8:58 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I have been on ILX a long time.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i cringed when i ctrl-f'd myself on this thread but apparently i never posted on it. i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
not only is this music super-awesome but it is also a surefire 100% guaranteed way to annoy one's parents - I don't think there's been any other music of mine which has had them coming in and telling me to turn it the fuck down with quite this fervour
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Absence and holy shitting Christ
is this really the name of one of their albums
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
and his parents thought they had it bad with the chris ofili prints
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 April 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
^what we mere mortals must wiki
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (9 hours ago) Permalink
It's their least good release by some distance imo
also want to echo assertion(s) above that they are super nice and funny ppl in my experience
― artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Friday, 2 April 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i really do think they are making some of the most important music of our time, and will prolly be remembered fondly like Art Ensemble Of Chicago or the Feelies in 20 yrs.
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 2 April 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link
yay two more bands for me to systematically destroy!
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
LJ, if you haven't made it this far back into the Dälek catalogue, these are both from their first/second album (depending whether you consider Negro Necro Nekros their debut album or a preceding EP) and are absolutely brilliant slabs of hip-hop/fucked sonics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhIA-YH-7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rs9PSG9qE
Did I mention this is one of the most incredible closing 1-2 punches on any album, ever?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I still need to get that album! Nor did I ever get around the Gutter Tactics, how is that one? The EP and the other two full-lengths are fantastic.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Haven't heard Gutter Tactics yet. Assume it's great, as most everything else they've released falls along the great-to-incredible axis.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 3 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL way ahead of you ilxor (sorry to repost from 77 but has to be done):
all that stuff is very important obv
'from filthy tongue', i can confirm, is amazing. 'black smoke rises' was about as awesome as i was always gonna think it was but the real stunners are the last two tracks, especially 'forever close my eyes'...holy shit.
the only (very minor) problem i can see myself having with dalek is the occasional over-reliance upon that 'when the levee breaks' beat but fuck it's still thrilling
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 01:12 (Yesterday) Bookmark
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i know if it weren't for you and "sucka pants" i'd be lost.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
btw whiney, notice the complete absence of hateration - ILX has changed for the better - this shit is 100% legit
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
you've misjudged who'll be the ones looking like sad morons, 'cause it sure as hell won't be the people getting all enthusiastic about music 'cause they, y'know, like it
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean i seriously can't stop listening to 'absence' on repeat - last track 'opiate the masses' especially is what RATM fucking SHOULD sound like
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that's kinda like saying: bad bands should make good music! i mean, they probably would if they could. in the meantime, just listen to good music.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i like these dudes but their website is called deadverse.com
― alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
haha scott i knew i'd said something a bit leading there but i mean it takes the sorta heavy-rap-loudness-protest-thumping ideal of RATM, at least as i hear them, and executes it infinitely better
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
also searching ilx for 'undie' threads or w/e = world and worlds and worlds of pain, which mysteriously end about 3 years ago - seriously so glad ilx got over itself :)
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
ilx poster acoleuthic what mike ladd albums have u listened 2
― alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
none but my clowning alert sensors are at red
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i love dalek. feel kinda bad that i haven't kept up though with the last album. heck, maybe even the last two albums. can't remember. but they are great.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
lj, you should check out the last clouddead album. ten. came out in 2004. i really liked it.
― scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
opening track of 'abandoned language' is a thing of beauty - if i were to make a BoC comparison wd people get pissy - don't care tbh
and yeah people are telling me to hear clouddead - think i'll get on it
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes I worry that in 20 years cLOUDDEAD/Subtle/etc. will be remembered as super-dorky prog-rap and my kids will mock me for loving it
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
(not that that should stop you, looj)
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
dose one et al are super-dorky prog-rap, love them for what they are or not at all
― ogmor, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
nah mike ladd has some jams
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, flashbacks to '00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQV5wByzzPUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FHwZpB27U
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALU7CiaPCzc
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
speaking of shit i used to listen to in lolcollege, has lj heard saul williams yet?
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
man, this is like LJ & Hip-Hop: The Unburdening
(keep it up!)
(and no, not yet...)
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
"Images Of .44 Casings" offa negro necro nekros is dope
― zvookster, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
cLOUDDEAD are amazing, the compilation of the 10"s especially. If you dig it you should definitely listen to some of Odd Nosdam's solo stuff, especially Burner, Level Live Wires and, to a lesser extent, No More Wig For Ohio but not the recent, lazy, blunted beats, snowboarding DVD soundtrack shit hop of TIME soundtrack.
I was once heading over to Birmingham to Supersonic fest when the van broke down. Dalek, pulled up in a cool van and gave us a jump start, like the alt hop A Team. In that no one got killed.
― Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
ok this was a jam ~11 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48M6mijPH8
and this has the requisite lj 10+ min:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LEdGIcBheM
second album has some good stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMtaIcrfQ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sXe2o3hSg
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
this is like ILX 103: A History of Nerd Rap in '97 - '02
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
cLOUDDEAD is currently being acquired by my web-wise brother, and I've added about 20 hip-hop albums to my iTunes in the past couple of days, so there'll be plenty more listening. So far, Dalek and CanOx have shone brightest, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of what I've received.
Dalek sound like the grooviest cats on Earth tbh
oh crumbs xpost!!! ok lemme bed down with some of this...
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
So you've heard Funcrusher Plus by Company Flow, right?
― Doran, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
That's on my computer, waiting to be gotten around to! Well, I listened to the first two tracks earlier and enjoyed them, but I was skimming about. Will give it a proper listen-through.
― uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
!!! Thanks for the word on that.I posted link to this brief take upthread, but Voice changed links again, so here tis from my own archive, taking this approach as far as I ever did, mending ways later (Voicewise), but meant to convey unusual listening experience:
Karma SuturesAncient Teutonic drone-rockers take on Jersey art-hoppersOctober 5th, 2004 4:50 PM Issue 40Faust vs. DalekDerbe Respecte, AlderStaubgoldNot so long ago, a young Jersey trio of prodigious mad hiphopologists, Dalek,undertook a European tour. How they suffered! Until rescued by an old Germankombo of legendary mad progologists, Faust. Transcription of (ob)sessionfollows:Facedown bass-clown chews through plaster cast appeal and last appeals.Artillery fire falls like fossils, into single phylum. Spinal columns of beatsstack, driven home, bent high; remixing bricks, carpets, and windows. In somecrumbling rumble's scratch, soundbeast crawls on. Barrel tongues roll years.Inventory takes itself, junkyard ripples like hide riding a horsefly:Groovation gathers. A thin blue flame suspends, not unlike the aural aura of organistLarry Young, but he died long ago. Miles and Jimi never played together, buthe played with them both. It is also not unlike the gas-jet flame Miles'sautobio claimed to be his earliest memory, seen across a field of whitest stovetop. Atmosphere waits out the needle of such a tiny thrill. But its point hasbeen made. And if the listener's ear-hole cherry should regrow itself, sealingfeeling? Well. CDs last a while. This one will be waiting.
Faust vs. DalekDerbe Respecte, AlderStaubgold
Not so long ago, a young Jersey trio of prodigious mad hiphopologists, Dalek,undertook a European tour. How they suffered! Until rescued by an old Germankombo of legendary mad progologists, Faust. Transcription of (ob)sessionfollows:Facedown bass-clown chews through plaster cast appeal and last appeals.Artillery fire falls like fossils, into single phylum. Spinal columns of beatsstack, driven home, bent high; remixing bricks, carpets, and windows. In somecrumbling rumble's scratch, soundbeast crawls on. Barrel tongues roll years.Inventory takes itself, junkyard ripples like hide riding a horsefly:Groovation gathers. A thin blue flame suspends, not unlike the aural aura of organistLarry Young, but he died long ago. Miles and Jimi never played together, buthe played with them both. It is also not unlike the gas-jet flame Miles'sautobio claimed to be his earliest memory, seen across a field of whitest stovetop. Atmosphere waits out the needle of such a tiny thrill. But its point hasbeen made. And if the listener's ear-hole cherry should regrow itself, sealingfeeling? Well. CDs last a while. This one will be waiting.
― dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
Followed by this for the collegetown local:
DalekThursday @ the Ravari RoomThe cliché tag of “underground” rap is right for Dalek’s pungent layers of sound, which earned them an album-length collaboration with prog pioneers Faust. On their first three albums, they pushed the layers up into towers of rubble, recycling old wars, civilizations, and other lost causes. On 2007’s Abandoned Language, they scrape away the noise, and direct an “Isolated Stare” up at hovering, glittering sounds, through a fractured glass ceiling of frustration. But they persist, rapping and playing over stoically-to-angrily swinging beats. They’re reputedly a formidable live act too.
― dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
But also, I need to post a correction: the Tarana album I linked upthread in 2015 involves Ravish Momin, not Dalek's Alap Momin. It's really good, though,and seemed like it had some Dalek appeal.
― dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link