"Is it rolling, Bob?": aka the 2008 P&J/Idolator trolling thread

new wavey novelty-type hits...have generally picked up enough votes to at least place

A couple Ting Tings singles (not nearly as inescapable as Perry but they actually got modern rock airplay in the States) could benefit from this principle, too. (And maybe even their album, too, though I kinda doubt that.)

The only deserving winner:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/images/2007/11/20/swift300.jpg

Hmmm...so maybe she'll win the Miranda Lambert Memorial Wish I Would Have Voted For Her Superior Debut Album Award after all.

wtf didnt that plush album come out like 3 years ago???

It was Japan only then. Everywhere else got Underfed, the demos album.

Another long-shot question: Does "Yes We Can" by Will I. Am. (or anything else election related -- Cocoa Tea's Barack Omaba song? - nah, probably not) get enough votes to place toward the bottom of the singles Top 40? (And do they do better if Obama wins than if he doesn't?)

I like Vampire Weekend btw.

― Tim F, Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:49 AM (8 hours ago)

huge sadface :(( tim, it's terrible. his VOICE.

I should probably point out here that there won't be another Idolator poll. The last one nearly killed me.

even huger sadface :(((

Don't worry Lex it's not gonna make my top twenty or anything.

I don't think anything Obama-related will have any effect on P&J, at least not this year. Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

fwiw i agree that mgmt have quietly become ubiquitous in the right circles to suggest a high placing here.

haters won't hurt katy perry but i haven't seen a great deal of rapture for it either, unlike rehab or ella-ella-ella. what does it say that the biggest, zeitgeistiest pop hit of 08 inspires more vocal hate than anything else.

'american boy' maybe?

i like the H&LA album but it's being so overrated. can't see it coming near even my top 30.

has anyone mentioned santogold yet? noticed a lot of love for that at the time. it's the only indie album of the year i like, anyway.

Lex you will like Gang Gang Dance.

Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

Nobody I know likes it, but you'd be surprised what well-meaning Pazz & Joppers will vote for sometimes. (I'd say "corny Pazz & Joppers," but I actually think it would be kind of sweet if people vote for that song, even though I can't stand it myself.)

haters won't hurt katy perry but i haven't seen a great deal of rapture for it either, unlike rehab or ella-ella-ella. what does it say that the biggest, zeitgeistiest pop hit of 08 inspires more vocal hate than anything else.

It says it definitely won't finish in the top 2, like rehab or ella ella ella. But who said it would? # 35 and # 2 aren't exactly the same thing.

Vampire Weekend is an okay new wave album. Though I replayed it this morning and it sounded thinner than I thought, mainly because of the guy's voice. (Not sure if any potential voters will come to the same conclusion when they re-play it themselves though.)

i love gang gang dance! xp

Nobody I know likes it, but you'd be surprised what well-meaning Pazz & Joppers will vote for sometimes. (I'd say "corny Pazz & Joppers," but I actually think it would be kind of sweet if people vote for that song, even though I can't stand it myself.)

huh, i just remembered that year when that "george bush doens't care about black people" thing placed.

the mariah album really should've eaten this summer btw, huge zeigeisty pop hits and all, but though it's still almost certainly going to be my no 2, i feel a little embarrassed repping so hard for it after she effed up its singles campaign so spectacularly

yeah, I almost mentioned that horrible Legendary K.O. thing in my last post, because I really think lefty critics are a lot more likely to put a song like that (or, ugh, "Rock The Casbah") on as a 'protest ballot,' then to include a song merely to celebrate Obama (of which there are many, none of which seem to be any good). maybe if the election gets robbed again there'd be a big angry anthem. (xpost)

wtf didnt that plush album come out like 3 years ago???

― 888 (ice crӕm), Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It was Japan only then. Everywhere else got Underfed, the demos album.

― cold and super-rational with anger (Raw Patrick), Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:42 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol internet

maybe if the election gets robbed again there'd be a big angry anthem

"Born in the Land of the KKK"! get crackin', Bruce.

has anyone mentioned santogold yet?

Yeah, it's been mentioned. "L.E.S. Artists" will do real well as a single (maybe top five, as somebody said above); album will do respectably too, I assume. But what about her Diplo mixtape? I like that more than the "real" album myself, and M.I.A.'s Diplo mixtape placed back before anybody even knew who M.I.A. was, right? Plus the Santogold mix got reviewed in Rolling Stone, so I assume it's been heard pretty widely. Then again, people having to split votes between two Santogold albums could potentially hurt both album's chances, too.

I don't think anything Obama-related will have any effect on P&J, at least not this year. Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

― some dude, Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:02 AM Bookmark

Dear gawd. I briefly roomed with an Obama field organizer who was a giant cornball. I was listening to something or other and he asked me, "Can you play 'Yes We Can'? It would make me really feel better." I looked at him like he was retarded.

Anyway, I don't think something like "Yes We Can" will do as well as "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People", because unlike that one, there's no novelty factor.

serious lols at that story

Lil Wayne will not win album of the year because only rap albums that seem to criticize or investigate rap itself end up winning.

dude sings as much as he raps on it and twiddles a guitar on a bunch of songs, wouldn't that count?

Lil Wayne will not win album of the year because only rap albums that seem to criticize or investigate rap itself end up winning.

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:09 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

"dr. carter"

is it cool to put Boredoms on my list or is it like OMG JAPANESE IMPORT ON TORRENTS IN 2007 GET A LATE PASS

i usually get annoyed when xhuxk says this but honestly if it's in your honest top 10 you might as well list it. i mean, why wait and see what year it may or may not get a U.S. release.

well it was released in the us in 08, but all my mentalist borebuddies were over it by fall 2008

fall 2007, i mean

i love it

i would say if it wasn't released in any country this year, yeah, let it go.

oh wait ok it was out here this year. yeah, whatever. i haven't had too many import/domestic release dilemmas before, except last year my list had a Sloan album that had been out in Canada in '06.

I listed Luomo's The Present Lover in 2004, Stars' Set Yourself on Fire in 2005, and Fujiya & Miyagi's Transparent Things in 2007, all of which came out in the U.S. a year after their original release. If I'd actually heard them in the year of their original release, I wouldn't have waited (e.g., I listed Robyn in 2005), but the delayed U.S. release kind of gives me an excuse for dragging my feet.

That wasn't very clear: The year I voted for those albums was the year they came out in the U.S. but not the year they were originally released.

Ha ha, I'm glad I'm not the one who has to the carryover-voter math on Robyn's album this year. How many different years has thing come out now? I wonder if they can access vote records that go back to 2005 these days. (The Voice has had a lot of turnover since then, including among the techies.)

yeah, all the old p&J results are kind of fuXXored on the site right now.

and have been for like two years

whiney, i plan on voting for that boredoms disc, you ain't alone

of course that could change anytime, there's way too much shit vying for a place in my Top Ten albums at the mo

yeah, it's actually gonna be in my top 20 prolly. This year was the easiest top 10 of any year ever for me!

you voting for prurient?

i'm def. voting for "and still, wanting" - was considering voting for "cocaine death" too but that wouldn't be fair

I'm seriously thinking about submitting an all-R&B ballot this year. Maybe just for singles, I'd have to cut some good rock/rap albums to make that work.

"oh those curveball throwing rock critics. R'n'b songs are good enough for their singles list but the artists are never worthy enough for their album list" A comment tossed my way once (it may have been about rap and not r'n'b)

lol yeah. i definitely like enough R&B albums this year to fill up my top 10, i just don't want to shaft albums from other genres that I like a bit more just for the purpose of a theme.

the singles list is more impt! and a lot harder to narrow down. there are probably 20-25 albums this year i think are "top 10-worthy" but like 100 singles.

really?

I have like 8 singles on my tentative list and one of them is N.E.R.D.

yeah i think there are a bunch of albums this year that are top 5 worthy and a bunch of singles that are 5-10 or worse worthy

worthy warts

this year I've been a lot less enthused about singles overall compared to previous years, but I've still got a looong potential list (and will probably blog a top 100 list like I usually do).

ive got pretty much just rap records and that the-dream album. i think. maybe the luomo too.

singles are the easiest for me bcuz i have no reservations about those

i always love more than 10 songs in a single year and i hope it stays that way

i like a lot of songs, but not many of them were singles.