Kingdom ft. Shyvonne - Mind Reader

No disrespect intended toward Ciara or Mariah (tho).

i thought we already learned from kode9 that the replicants were getting smarter.

makes me wonder if with those trancey synths, he could be trying to do to tricky/terius something similar to what speed garage did to todd edwards if that makes sense

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0hrecZVB21qzsllto1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1270728463&Signature=yQT4jxlXrjAj286gHAzUayUD%2FYE%3D

nsfw

?????

is he reading his mind... through his groin?

what's in that baggie on the table

is Teedra actually popular outside the US or something?

wkiw kingdom

is teedra actually popular IN the us?

btw everyone's heard the "mind reader" b-side "you" now? swv sample <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5s6XhO33U

is teedra actually popular IN the us?

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:07 AM Bookmark

uh uh. her album peaked at #168 and she hasn't put a single above #87 on the r&b chart, let alone entered the hot 100. which is why it weirds me out that she seems to be a such touchstone for non-us r&b fans

irrespective of quality (although I've never really gotten into her)

she's a touchstone for a certain kind of r&b fan regardless of location i think (also, kingdom is american). when i saw her live last year, the (smallish) crowd were REALLY enthusiastic, singing along to not just the words but every little vocal nuance.

she was my first ever interview for a national publication back in 04!

ok, but I've never heard of her other than on the internetz, just sayin

new mixtape out at luckyme

omfg just getting round to that mix and he makes lumidee sound like an ACTUAL ANGEL

currently on his euro tour - live on rinse.fm (which just got their official radio license) with bok bok for the next hour and a half or so.

mind reader is a pretty cool song

they just finished up the video for mindreader, debuting july 8th at 8pm on mtv2

There's another new track, Pathfinder, that is doing the rounds and is also terrific. So ravey!

His remix of Black Box is probably my favourite though...

http://www.myspace.com/nightslugs

ep previewing

^^that ep's out this week and i love it - he wasn't wrong when he said he was doing dark, shamanistic stuff. love how deep and rich they sound, and the cassie.faith evans/beyoncé samples are done so well.

The new EP, first track aside is DULL. I'm not sure this sort of dark, bass-heavy direction is one he should be going in - especially as everyone else is doing it. When you can put out bangers as great as Mindreader and Pathfinder, why bother?

eh, i dig it. i really wasn't that into pathfinder get worn out on party/club-friendly bangers and re: "everyone else is doing it" in regard to the dark/bass-heaviness - everyone isn't doing it nearly this well.

these are prob my favourite two tracks off the that mystic ep - still can't get enough of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9seoXcXuTN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkL8hCaSqtQ

The breakdown at the end of "You" is probably my favorite moment in music all year (though I guess that came out in '09) and kicked off my infatuation with him. His remix of Rita Indiana is subliiime (not on Youtube yet but it's on his FACT mix and comes out next week).

Love this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3dVXr6_20

Go see him DJ if you have the chance. It's a thrill hearing him connect the dots between his own sound and r&b, rap, etc.

heh i helped him id the producer on the orig unorthadox daughter. he didn't have too many ins for a clean edit so he ended up looping a lot of the outro.

a track that sort of came from nowhere on the ep and ended up being my favorite is "seven chirp"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLNKvP1pOWA

love it on it's own but there's also something about it that reminds me of scott hardkiss doing raincry as god within

How can you remix Unorthodox Daughter and remove No Lay? Philistine.

surprised that he's not from UK. anyway the first two tracks from that EP are unreal. I imagine "Bust Broke" would be great as one the first tracks in a dj set.

I listened to That Mystic on the way in to work today and what is actually sounds like is an extended Prodigy album intro or build, just before everything kicks in. Except it doesn't really.

The EP in general is kind of frustrating still, Kingdom is so obviously vastly more talented than most of the people in this scene and I really hope he doesn't go over full time to the dark side of the non-dancing nodding hordes.

Kinda agree in general but you gotta admit "Fogs" is brilliant.

the non-dancing nodding hordes

and who the fuck might these be

and how are "that mystic" and "fogs" NOT massively danceable?

Can't speak for Matt, I think they are danceable (those two in particular). The use of overlaid half-step beats definitely caters for typical (nodding / skanking) dubstep audiences as well though. It's double-speed music. This is not a bad thing, would become so if it became dude's standard operating procedure but it's way too early to call it that.

The NDNH are pretty much a constant in British dance music fandom and have been since the early 90s, but yeah the halfstep beat doesn't help. "Massively danceable" is a hell of an overstatement but Fogs is pretty good once it starts going. Anything that deliberately messes with momentum like that offends my dancing sensibilities really.

you and tim using "nodding dubstep audiences" as strawmen to beat this stuff with - even when you like it! - is really really tired now, especially as it couldn't be further from the reality of actual night slugs nights, as you, matt, very well know from the ONE time you came to one (tim of course having attended NONE)

i mean, the hostility to that sort of audience is SHARED by these producers!

But I didn't actually say "nodding dubstep audiences" and you know that full well. I wasn't even talking about dubstep per se because I agree that's played out and tired. I'm talking about a specific type of (usually) spliff-head dance music fan that seems to have latched onto stuff like this (and bedroom-friendly dubstep-influenced music in general). I'm not actually talking about club nights as 'non-dancing nodding hordes' should have indicated.

Actually the one time I went to Night Slugs the downstairs dancefloor *was* full of people standing and nodding and a minority of people near the front dancing - that's not misrepresentation that was my actual experience. Much of the Night Slugs stuff I've heard IS actually danceable, I just don't think it's very good.

(And yes I am perfectly willing to accept that the night is not always like this...)

I mean, surely you agree this audience exists, right? I was saying that Kingdom is so great at producing actual bangers that it would be a waste for him to make this his main style. You're defending the label against an ad-hominem attack that I didn't actually make.

i'm saying these ARE actual bangers, certainly not an attempt to cater to that audience - not that i know of anyone who does do that, or indeed anyone who's part of that audience, so i don't see the point in worrying about it

Think we'll have to disagree on the definition of 'banger' there but I'm aware continuing in this vein will just make me sound like a 2010 version of the "it's just an insect crawling across a microphone" crew so should probably just stop.

i find danceable-or-not convos kind of superfluous since people (on the us east coast at least) don't actually dance anymore vs flop around anyway but in anycase i've never seen a crowd having a problem proceeding with said flopping anytime he's dropped these tracks.

I fully admit to being a paid up non-dancing nodding horde but I really quite like this EP.

yallr crazy btw

you and tim using "nodding dubstep audiences" as strawmen to beat this stuff with - even when you like it! - is really really tired now, especially as it couldn't be further from the reality of actual night slugs nights, as you, matt, very well know from the ONE time you came to one (tim of course having attended NONE)

Lex you start yelling at me in these threads even when I'm not saying anything inflammatory.

Matt said he hoped Kingdom didn't go too far in the direction of dark head-nodding music, I expressed conditional agreement with that sentiment but said that hey you know the music is actually really good, so... And then you immediately start up with the swearing and the ad hominem attacks. In the funky thread you also started yelling at me specifically after Matt rubbished Girl Unit when I hadn't even said anything.

I don't know why you just see red on this point, because as far as I can tell I have always been pretty respectful towards Night Slugs, with the one exception being saying I found the 2009 promo mix disappointing.

The Kingdom EP is massive at dubstep nights (mainly just the title track though), as are a lot of Night Slugs releases. I go to them fairly regularly because so many of my friends are into all this music. As a general rule this stuff is among the best stuff played at such nights (though I've never been an across-the-board dubstep hater, I just don't like the Benga/Distance/Caspa continuum, which is a fairly common position I would have thought), in part because DJs over here never seem to play the Ramadanman (etc.) tracks I actually love and go for the weaker material in that vein.

People don't really dance at dubstep nights, still (well, not in the non-nodding/skanking sense). This may be an exclusively-Oz thing but I doubt it because a good third of the audience are british backpackers.

My comment that Kingdom's EP tracks can work in both contexts is (a) objectively correct, and unable to be disproven by the particular practice at a specific club; and (b) hardly a diss.

This is cool
http://rcrdlbl.com/artists/Jacques_Greene/track/Tell_Me_Kingdom_Edit

"Bank Head" is totally on slow burner status

it hasn't burned for me yet, felt a bit like a lesser "take me"

though this whole axis has been disappointing me for a year or more now so *shrug*

f2m/ns/qb camp's been hyping kelela for a bit, i haven't listened to other stuff she's done yet. she was opening on the solange tour, dunno if still.

but yeah this rules, he's been dropping it in his mixes for a while now and it's always stood out.