Kingdom ft. Shyvonne - Mind Reader

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AND DUMMY this is getting kind of funny.

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

"Are these the symbols I see you wearing in pictures? Do they have any specific meaning?

Yeah, people always asked me to defend that at school, because there always was this occult, spiritual element to my visual work, but the whole point is that it’s inspired by sounds but there’s no spiritual thing it’s referencing. It’s my own spiritual language."

I bet being in this guys class was hell!

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems perfect to me that the R&B names mentioned in his pitchfork interview are Teedra Moses, Jazmine Sullivan and (yes!) Yummy Bingham - perfect not only in the sense of "awesome taste" but it's not coincidental I think that the first two are the R&B divas from the perspective of uk funky. I like the sensibility it implies.

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Also Ciara and Memoirs of a Perfect angel in the Fact/Dummy ones

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

They're great too obv but it's not quite the same thing IMO. Teedra/Jazmine/Yummy says something very specific I think.

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

No disrespect intended toward Ciara or Mariah (tho).

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought we already learned from kode9 that the replicants were getting smarter.

r|t|c, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

makes me wonder if with those trancey synths, he could be trying to do to tricky/terius something similar to what speed garage did to todd edwards if that makes sense

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

nsfw

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

?????

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

is he reading his mind... through his groin?

etrian odysseus (cozen), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

what's in that baggie on the table

armando white (dyao), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

is Teedra actually popular outside the US or something?

juaquin on sunshine (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw kingdom

plax (ico), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

is teedra actually popular IN the us?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

btw everyone's heard the "mind reader" b-side "you" now? swv sample <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5s6XhO33U

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

is teedra actually popular IN the us?

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 11:07 AM Bookmark

uh uh. her album peaked at #168 and she hasn't put a single above #87 on the r&b chart, let alone entered the hot 100. which is why it weirds me out that she seems to be a such touchstone for non-us r&b fans

juaquin on sunshine (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

irrespective of quality (although I've never really gotten into her)

juaquin on sunshine (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

she's a touchstone for a certain kind of r&b fan regardless of location i think (also, kingdom is american). when i saw her live last year, the (smallish) crowd were REALLY enthusiastic, singing along to not just the words but every little vocal nuance.

she was my first ever interview for a national publication back in 04!

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, but I've never heard of her other than on the internetz, just sayin

juaquin on sunshine (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

new mixtape out at luckyme

fauxmarc, Friday, 16 April 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

omfg just getting round to that mix and he makes lumidee sound like an ACTUAL ANGEL

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 19 April 2010 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

currently on his euro tour - live on rinse.fm (which just got their official radio license) with bok bok for the next hour and a half or so.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

mind reader is a pretty cool song

it's detlef season, you schremps (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

they just finished up the video for mindreader, debuting july 8th at 8pm on mtv2

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

There's another new track, Pathfinder, that is doing the rounds and is also terrific. So ravey!

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

His remix of Black Box is probably my favourite though...

Vulvuzela (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.myspace.com/nightslugs

ep previewing

plax (ico), Saturday, 24 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

^^that ep's out this week and i love it - he wasn't wrong when he said he was doing dark, shamanistic stuff. love how deep and rich they sound, and the cassie.faith evans/beyoncé samples are done so well.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link

The new EP, first track aside is DULL. I'm not sure this sort of dark, bass-heavy direction is one he should be going in - especially as everyone else is doing it. When you can put out bangers as great as Mindreader and Pathfinder, why bother?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link

eh, i dig it. i really wasn't that into pathfinder get worn out on party/club-friendly bangers and re: "everyone else is doing it" in regard to the dark/bass-heaviness - everyone isn't doing it nearly this well.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

these are prob my favourite two tracks off the that mystic ep - still can't get enough of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9seoXcXuTN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkL8hCaSqtQ

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The breakdown at the end of "You" is probably my favorite moment in music all year (though I guess that came out in '09) and kicked off my infatuation with him. His remix of Rita Indiana is subliiime (not on Youtube yet but it's on his FACT mix and comes out next week).

Love this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3dVXr6_20

Go see him DJ if you have the chance. It's a thrill hearing him connect the dots between his own sound and r&b, rap, etc.

big jeans (lou), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

heh i helped him id the producer on the orig unorthadox daughter. he didn't have too many ins for a clean edit so he ended up looping a lot of the outro.

a track that sort of came from nowhere on the ep and ended up being my favorite is "seven chirp"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLNKvP1pOWA

love it on it's own but there's also something about it that reminds me of scott hardkiss doing raincry as god within

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

How can you remix Unorthodox Daughter and remove No Lay? Philistine.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

surprised that he's not from UK. anyway the first two tracks from that EP are unreal. I imagine "Bust Broke" would be great as one the first tracks in a dj set.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to That Mystic on the way in to work today and what is actually sounds like is an extended Prodigy album intro or build, just before everything kicks in. Except it doesn't really.

The EP in general is kind of frustrating still, Kingdom is so obviously vastly more talented than most of the people in this scene and I really hope he doesn't go over full time to the dark side of the non-dancing nodding hordes.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda agree in general but you gotta admit "Fogs" is brilliant.

Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

the non-dancing nodding hordes

and who the fuck might these be

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

and how are "that mystic" and "fogs" NOT massively danceable?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't speak for Matt, I think they are danceable (those two in particular). The use of overlaid half-step beats definitely caters for typical (nodding / skanking) dubstep audiences as well though. It's double-speed music. This is not a bad thing, would become so if it became dude's standard operating procedure but it's way too early to call it that.

Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

The NDNH are pretty much a constant in British dance music fandom and have been since the early 90s, but yeah the halfstep beat doesn't help. "Massively danceable" is a hell of an overstatement but Fogs is pretty good once it starts going. Anything that deliberately messes with momentum like that offends my dancing sensibilities really.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

you and tim using "nodding dubstep audiences" as strawmen to beat this stuff with - even when you like it! - is really really tired now, especially as it couldn't be further from the reality of actual night slugs nights, as you, matt, very well know from the ONE time you came to one (tim of course having attended NONE)

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, the hostility to that sort of audience is SHARED by these producers!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

But I didn't actually say "nodding dubstep audiences" and you know that full well. I wasn't even talking about dubstep per se because I agree that's played out and tired. I'm talking about a specific type of (usually) spliff-head dance music fan that seems to have latched onto stuff like this (and bedroom-friendly dubstep-influenced music in general). I'm not actually talking about club nights as 'non-dancing nodding hordes' should have indicated.

Actually the one time I went to Night Slugs the downstairs dancefloor *was* full of people standing and nodding and a minority of people near the front dancing - that's not misrepresentation that was my actual experience. Much of the Night Slugs stuff I've heard IS actually danceable, I just don't think it's very good.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

(And yes I am perfectly willing to accept that the night is not always like this...)

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, surely you agree this audience exists, right? I was saying that Kingdom is so great at producing actual bangers that it would be a waste for him to make this his main style. You're defending the label against an ad-hominem attack that I didn't actually make.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm saying these ARE actual bangers, certainly not an attempt to cater to that audience - not that i know of anyone who does do that, or indeed anyone who's part of that audience, so i don't see the point in worrying about it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Think we'll have to disagree on the definition of 'banger' there but I'm aware continuing in this vein will just make me sound like a 2010 version of the "it's just an insect crawling across a microphone" crew so should probably just stop.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

(deej if he is reading this will prob be interested to hear it has "mirror dance" v near the beginning)

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Saturday, 10 November 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...
three months pass...

I guess this is maybe not the best existing thread for it, but here's an excellent interview with Rizzla about appropriation in dance music:

http://www.factmag.com/2013/04/08/get-to-know-it-and-you-wont-want-to-rip-it-off-fade-to-minds-rizzla-on-confronting-appropriation-and-humanizing-the-exotic/

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

love "bank head". the part where the vocals keep jumping up to those high notes kept reminding me of something, finally figured out that it's 'stillness is the move'.

(rizzla article is great too)

shit tie (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

"Bank Head" is totally on slow burner status

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

it hasn't burned for me yet, felt a bit like a lesser "take me"

though this whole axis has been disappointing me for a year or more now so *shrug*

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

f2m/ns/qb camp's been hyping kelela for a bit, i haven't listened to other stuff she's done yet. she was opening on the solange tour, dunno if still.

but yeah this rules, he's been dropping it in his mixes for a while now and it's always stood out.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link


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