yeah ... i have Weld on VHS, haha. No VCR to play it on anymore ... Actually come to think of it, in Shakey, they talk about how the *laserdisc* of Weld has different David Briggs mixes of the songs ... Anybody ever found audio of that?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I'm normally not so keen on "Hurricane" but the Unplugged version is great.
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Tyler - check your mail.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
An oddball "search" (also hated by Neil & Jimmy MD): The 45 mix of "Cinnamon Girl". I got ahold of a copy (b/w "Sugar Mountain") over the weekend and had a listen last night. It has a different mix on the vocal, w/Danny Whitten given prominence over Neil. Sounds kinda fresh and cool--almost makes up for the the solo guitar at the end getting chopped off. Would have been a neat bonus on the Archives box.
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I was just thumbing through my copy of Shakey and now I'm kinda curious to hear exactly what makes Landing on Water so bad (given that I pretty much never agree with any of the opinions of Young's material expressed in the book)
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
"Hippie Dream" off Landing on Water is great, the rest not so good
― And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a weird record -- not a lost classic or anything, but worth hearing at least once. Did everybody hear Neil is touring with Bert Jansch this summer!? Whoa.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf?!
― famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah! http://bit.ly/bdoSud also, here's a link to that batshit Hal Wilner tribute from last month: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=436
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
haven't heard Landing on... in years, but i seem to recall "Pressure" was pretty great
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSamboTHc7U
Kaneoism is this a real record?
Haha. Kind of my reaction.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
So I've been reading through Shakey (great bio, as others have said), which re-piqued my interest in the never-released Homegrown songs. Writing about the songs of this period, McDonough says "It is hard to be enthusiastic enough about this period of Young's work. The wordplay is magnificent, his singing never more impassioned. In terms of record-making, Young was at the top of his game. Pain, it seems, brought out the best in him."
But while Chrome Dreams is widely available, I haven't seen Homegrown. I'm not asking for a link or anything, I'm just wondering - is it out there? I haven't been able to find it, so far. I realize that some of the songs on Homegrown were released later (on Decade, Hawks and Doves, American Stars 'n Bars) But what about the other songs? Are they out there somewhere?
― party time! (Z S), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
no, as far as I know, there's a ton of stuff from that period (a lot of which is mentioned in Shakey) that's never made it out on to bootleg. he's played a fair amount of the unreleased stuff live, you could probably patch together a version of it from live stuff. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Homegrown.jpgPretty useful wiki page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_(Neil_Young_album)
― tylerw, Saturday, 8 May 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Give Me Strength is amazing, one of my fave Neil Young songs"Give Me Strength" - "on December 16, Young recorded "Give Me Strength." The lyrics catch him struggling to make the final break from Snodgress. It features a bittersweet chorus: "The happier you fly, the sadder you crawl/The laughter in your eye is never all." Untrained singer Ellen Talbot sang along on harmony, providing a crazy edge more than suitable for one of the last Snodgress songs. The sound is almost mystical. Guitar and harmonica, plus luminous overdubs of a tinkling piano and a finger tapping a paper cup, add glimmers of color that come and go. An impressionistic sound, precisely constructed without losing any of its spontaneous feel."
― tylerw, Saturday, 8 May 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I may have responded to this back in the day w/ another screen name, but what the heck.
Search: Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, Rust Never Sleeps, Sleeps w/ Angels, Tonight's the Night, Zuma, On the Beach, American Stars & Bars, Live Rust, Ragged Glory, Mirror Ball, Broken Arrow [I think that's the name...]
Destroy: Trans, Living with War
― ImprovSpirit, Sunday, 9 May 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Just heard "On the Beach" for the first time last week, after about a week of tour, on a hot summer night driving through Virginia. I found it in a thrift store on cassette, a needledrop backed with "Re*ac*tor" which also blew my mind. Damn damn damn amazing. "Ambulance Blues" and "Motion Pictures" are sooooooo beautiful.
I think the turntable it was dubbed from runs slow, because I listened to it on youtube and it sounds a little faster. The slow tape burn really fits that last half of "On the Beach" though....
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 August 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link
The second side of "Reactor" is really great. The guitar noise on "Shots" is just killer!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 August 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
Also that one-note solo in "Motor City" (I think). And the cool stuttering in "Rapid Transit".
This looks like a case of NEIL YOUNG FEVER!
On the Beach kinda kicked off an obsession a few years ago with me. I eventually worked my way through most of his stuff, and there's a tonyo love, but I think On the Beach will always be my favorite.
― future events are now current events (Z S), Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
Re: the speed of the turntable, here's some information on this issue (copied from this site)
And we can finally settle another issue that has been dogging collectors of this album on vinyl: This is bad news for UK and some German/EU fans of the vinyl - ALL UK copies regardless of vintage were mastered using a faulty cutting tape that played at the WRONG speed. The resulting LP played too fast. It really makes a difference to the sound of the songs so I suggest all UK pressing owners frame the damn thing and put it on the wall and listen to the CD. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.This also applies to later EU and German pressings that carry the 'strawberry' mastering stamp. Original 1st press copies from Germany are OK as are most other nationality pressings to my knowledge - but if it says K54014 or 'Strawberry' in the dead wax run-out area, it plays incorrect. ALL UK pressings are affected.All US copies are OK.
I found a vinyl copy about a year or two before the cd-reissue was released and upon getting the cd I noticed the speed difference right away, checked the runout wax and yep, there was a "K54014". I quite like the slightly faster "Walk On" though...
― willem, Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
The second side of "Reactor" is really great
1st side has "Opera Star" and "T-Bone", so it's none too shabby
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 August 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
from some kind of new jonathan demme doc? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtM87hxp2FM&feature=player_embedded
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
goof whitney?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
This marks the second time solo Neil has maintained more or less the exact same setlist night to night just for (I assume) the sake of a Demme film. Did this one ever get released?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpltKhz8fVM&feature=player_embedded
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
i guess not? i haven't seen it. would watch.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
um, i saw it.
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Friday, 2 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
it's awesome.
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Friday, 2 September 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it looks good -- that tour was really strong, excellent band.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
way better than Heart of Gold imo but i'd rather see bitter rocking neil anyway. it's on netflix i think.
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Friday, 2 September 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
is it? i thought i hadn't come out on dvd. netflix sez Availability: DVD availability date unknownalso sez This movie is: Gritty
― tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
ok i'm an idiot. it played here for about a week last year. that was when i saw it. guess it hasn't been released after that. i looked on netflix for like 2 seconds and i don't even have it (netflix), lol.
it is kind of gritty tbh!
― puerile fantasies (Matt P), Friday, 2 September 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
I just scored a copy of Stills-Young cheap. Any thoughts on this least lamented of Neil's oop '70s work?
― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
"Ocean Girl" is one of my 10 favourite Neil songs--love it as much as almost anything. For me, the rest of his half is tepid--the title song's somewhat better than that, but still pretty ordinary, I think.
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah "ocean girl" is good. i like midnight on the bay. prefer long may you run on bootlegs / live albums. stills' songs are pretty bad.
― tylerw, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
that's funny, i just bought stills-young the other day as well. still haven't had time to listen to it, but it was only a few bucks. looking forward to hearing "ocean rain", though...i assumed that only "long may you run" was any good!
― In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
"ocean girl", sorry. been listening to way too much echo recently
Two guys within a matter of days--Stills is on the phone to Neil as we speak. "Ocean Girl" always felt like a Zuma song to me; don't know if it was ever slated for that originally. I wonder if Neil has enough girl songs for a compilation: "Ocean Girl," "Cinnamon Girl," "Country Girl," "Stupid Girl"...
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
ok, "make love to you" may be the single worst song that I've ever heard
― In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
Stills brings the goods always
― Euler, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Actually enjoyed this a bit. I bet Warners wished at the time Neil could have delivered an album full of the the material he put out here--perhaps the closest he came to mellow El Lay studio rock. "Let It Shine" sounds like a Zuma outtake with industrial polish applied.
As for the Stills stuff, umm, at least they aren't as bad as that singles bar song song from CSN the next year, with the lines about "she's looking at your crotch". Really didn't need to know about Stills' late-70s sex life. Musically, the last song ("Guardian Angel") remended me alot of Steely Dan.
The Neil stuff makes for a nice EP. I wonder what if any of this material will make the cut for Archives II: Ditch Boogaloo. Meanwhile, I need to dig up my copies of the tour boots i got from Tyler's blog.
― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHR6lDM75Y
― In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
yes it's gonna take all night
― In the long run, we will all be cyberpunks (Z S), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
"...to get my flabby coke dick semi-erect."
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
hee hee. kind of coming around on A Treasure -- a fun listen for sure. The real "treasures" are "Southern Pacific" and "Grey Riders". Excellent band sound, great guitar from Neil. I also think the Toyota song is worth a chuckle or two -- second verse begins with the lines "Another thing that's buggin' me!" Haha. Old Man Neil writes a letter to the editor.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if Neil has enough girl songs for a compilation: "Ocean Girl," "Cinnamon Girl," "Country Girl," "Stupid Girl"...
Do Inca/Aztec songs on the side 2
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
that makes a lot of sense actually
I have that Stills/Young album on vinyl and let me just say it's one of the few times when I wish I had it digitally instead, Still's songs are so execrable
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's like him and Neil's songs are from different planets
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, one dude hitting career peaks (maybe not w/ the songs here, but just in general) and the other bottoming out. though i guess stills had plenty more bottoming out to do.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b58sBvr11qzsoufo1_250.jpg
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link