― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 09:29 (twenty years ago) link
the page http://www.metropolis-records.com/?artists/haujobb.html includes 1-minute Real Audio clips of both tracks (well, the single "less" and a decent remix of "overflow")
In their original forms, both tracks appear on ninetynine, which was a significant departure from Haujobb's usual EBM-ish style, and which remains one of my favorite albums. "Micro-goth" describes it perfectly.
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link
"Microgoth" is a joke obv. but this *is* an interesting tendency within (German) house music: if there's always been a certain "reclamation of sonic possibilities" self-consciousness about the microhouse movement, this stuff reroutes it explicitly in favour of a reclamation of emotional possibilities. I'm not saying that house hasn't always had a relatively large emotional palette but this sort of (incredibly white) gothic melodrama has not typically been part of it, and I think that's part of the reason why this strain is so compelling: it's like a deliberate antithesis of the core emotional values of house in particular. Like, the Vedrus remix of Blumfeld is great, but it sounds more than anything like a German version of Marc Almond or a Gore-sung Depeche Mode track. And that un-housiness rubs up against the housiness of the actual groove quite deliciously. There's a tension born from knowing that these parts aren't supposed to go together.
True, this doesn't apply so much to techno, but then even techno hasn't tended to sound much like this since the mid-nineties - machines don't have so much of a flair melodrama. You have to go back to Adamski's "Killer". Or "Papua New Guinea" for the emotional shiversomeness.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 09:48 (twenty years ago) link
― MikeB, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago) link
+ Curtis Jones (cajmere/green velvet) brings some 'melodrama' in late-90s techno
― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link
there were soundscapes/ bass lines on this that very cure-like
the original 90s goth-housers were The Aloof, check their debut album and their later album: Seeking Pleasure
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:42 (twenty years ago) link
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
(Oh hold on I can and it would be as rub as goth music)
Anyway isn't all German music goth?
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
Anders Ilar - Hydro (and just about anything else by him, provided it has a beat)Lawrence - French Fries (and just about anything else by him)Carsten Jost - PinkSten - EccentricKonrad Black - Separation Anxiety*
*Just about EVERYTHING else on 240 Volts qualifies as well.
This, uh, mix is pretty much completely micro-goth.
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, if you were to eliminate Perlon and Force Tracks, just about everything could qualify as micro-goth.
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
Panpot Spliff!
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
not sure how the germans would react if you told them they were 'micro-goth', though -- being a goth has a very different resonance in germany than it does here in america (or australia, i'm guessing)
― geeta, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link
some recent johannes heil or anthony rother might apply here (particularly the new rother single).
also:cadenza002horrorama - horrorama (+ remixes)oliver hacke - 21:31 and trapez ltd 6swayzak - state of grace (and all of it's remixes)any of the electrilogy 12's by carl finlow
― disco stu (disco stu), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
Dominik Eulberg - Afraid of Letting Go (including Gigolo Joe quote!)Continuous Mode - Kryptic ModeAlexander Polzin - Lighter
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link
everything by sami koivikkoswayzak - in the car crash (carsten jost remix)
― tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
― disco goth (disco stu), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah I was listening to Sinking (much better than Seeking Pleasure in my opinion, if only because it's goth and groovy) a few weeks ago and thought there was a real resemblence there. I really love that tough industrial techno loop thing they had going, esp. how it combined with those sparkling piano and string bits which sounded plucked straight from Disintegration. The guys deserve genius status for "Stuck On The Shelf" alone. But (crucially) there's no disco left in The Aloof.
You can hear that Blumfeld track in the first mix here.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:11 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:35 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Elyn (elynbeth), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Xii (Xii), Thursday, 26 February 2004 07:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 26 February 2004 08:11 (twenty years ago) link
― jimmy the doom saint, Thursday, 26 February 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 February 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago) link
I always thought this was the direction the Cure should have headed in after Disentegration. 'Sinking' sounds like the great lost Cure album, even the title sounds right!
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 February 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 26 February 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 26 February 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link
― $$, Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
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― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago) link
Most of that Ellen Allien remix collection is killer, although it may not be micro goth maybe maximum goth
― hector (hector), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
No wonder I love all this stuff to death, given that goth was pretty much the first genre I could call mine (well, "goth" in the loosest definition, anyway - I was always very confused by Jesus and Mary Chain, as a wee lad, because they looked so goth while sounding so rock!).
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 27 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 February 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link
― hector (hector), Friday, 27 February 2004 01:33 (twenty years ago) link
And where does Oliver Hacke release his stuff?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 27 February 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link
true, but they didn't do the black lace, white face and purple lipstick thing, right? same goes for Joy Division!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 February 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 27 February 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
― hector (hector), Friday, 27 February 2004 02:16 (twenty years ago) link
― tricky disco (disco stu), Friday, 27 February 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link
This is a bit like saying that some considered Pope John Paul II Catholic for a period of his life.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link
Them early club mixes of Soft Cell you mention are incredibly great/evil/filthy-sounding (in more ways than one).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Where Marc Almond does sort of sneak in is with the Hacker remix of "Soul on Soul".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe I don't quite understand the criteria, silly as it is....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess I'm hung up a bit on the muscularity of "Tottentanz". Definitely dark, with some very goth Middle Eastern compositional structure going on (at least that's what I'm hearing in the track), but I was thinking more melancholy than melodrama or muscularity. But then again all three is pretty much Creatures in a nutshell, or Blue Sunshine, so ok- I'm with you.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― nocure, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― hector (hector), Saturday, 18 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 18 March 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
there also seems to be a substrata of cyber sounding goth coming around. The pan pot stuff hints at it. Not so romantic just dark and a bit brutal.
― hector (hector), Friday, 7 April 2006 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link
doesnt get much gothier than Roland Appel - Dark Soldier
― ☪, Sunday, 8 July 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Sounds like Kelly Polar does Luomo on Solak Kollektiv
― Michael F Gill, Sunday, 8 July 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link
So, I've gotten word Agoria's at the controls may be a micro-goth masterpiece of sorts. Any confirmation on this or other things about it worth noting?
― mehlt, Thursday, 13 March 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link
The definitive micro-goth release?
Thomas Brinkmann - When Horses Die http://www.discogs.com/release/1237455
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't this "goth", I must listen to it again as I didn't hear any "micro".
― mmmm, Monday, 7 April 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I take it that Agoria mix mentioned a while ago never got US release or even wide import release? It's always fun tracking down stuff that isn't on any download stores. Is it really as good as the five star RA review says?
― mh, Monday, 7 April 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I've just browsed through the Brinkmann in a record shop this past weekend, so I only have a first impression, but it seemed to contain lots of "micro" elements (clicky percussive filaments and so on). Would like to hear from those more familiar with this release...
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
(I see there's a mention of it here.
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Monday, 7 April 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
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God, Radioslave's remix of Le Noir's Eleny is a truly spellbinding piece of work, brilliant. In fact, my dislike of Radioslave, as pushed to disguist come Bell Clap Dance has been well pacified by this.
Oh Micro-Goth, I think I've decided you are my very favourite style of music.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link
if pantha du prince didnt exist, we would have had to invent him
― max, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/aequitas3/Freaky_Midget.jpg
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:34 (sixteen years ago) link
And that is why I will never, ever use the term micro-goth in public.
Not that I like the term at all to begin with.
― mehlt, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/passarelladeathsquad
― ☆, Thursday, 22 October 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
from K. Ross Hoffman's AMG review of PdP's Black Noise:
...and "Behind the Stars" brings on the grinding electro keyboards and dark, distorted vocals, recalling the "micro-goth" tag sometimes applied to his earlier work...
― Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Is Shackleton qualified for this tag?
― Moka, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't stop looking at that pic latebloomer posted
― jaxon, Sunday, 21 February 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
This might just be the saddest of all micro-goth epics [for this record, this remains my favourite music genre]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdStHfg5kfE
― Noise II Men (EDB), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
Are Fever Ray, Nicolas Jaar and Aquarius Heaven allowed in here? I have a 'microgoth' playlist with some of the songs in here and I think their sound fits quite alright.
― Moka, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 07:17 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man, looking over this thread is making me reminisce about first hearing Pantha du Prince and feeling all funny inside.
― EDB, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
xp Post some Fever Ray, Nicolas Jaar and Aquarius Heaven youtubes in here so we can all decide.
― ●-● (ledge), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
xpost: You're doing it wrong. Goth shouldn't make you feel funny inside.
― Moka, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Per request:
Fever Ray - If I had a Hearthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAzlNJonO8Fever Ray - Sevenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX07gCjT7dAAquarius Heaven - Universehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbxesMrGQMissy Elliott - Work It (Jaar rework)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUQUtkwsFWkNicolas Jaar - With Just One Glancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFWT2B7acc
― Moka, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
None of those really sound especially microhouse, which is of course half of what makes micro-goth what it is (and in which case you'd be hard pressed to find new examples). Of course, I'm being a total sticker, but only because you had the audacity to say I was 'doing it wrong.' Puh-leeze.
― EDB, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
T'was joking about you doing it wrong. If gloomy, dark music makes you feel funny that's alright with me.
― Moka, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link