― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 March 2003 08:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 20 March 2003 08:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Frank Zappa to review!
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 20 March 2003 08:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
Funny.
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 10:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 13:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Evan (Evan), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
Explain how this equals "ooh! Wham! Who remembers them?" please.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Defend them then.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Ridgely (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 21 March 2003 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
but enough about ILx....
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
What problem do have w/ Pitchfork's ethics?
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Haines even finds time to riff on his status as the band's ventriloquist...
Not one mention of John Moore. Not one single bloody mention. Him and Haines co-write all the frigging songs, for fuck's sakes. He must be one of the most ignored men in popular music, like, ever.
Grr.
Other than that, it's not too far off. But that whole overtone of BBR as being entirely "criminal mastermind Luke Haines" really fucking grates after a while.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
For one, their across-the-board holocaust denial.*
*this may not be true.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― S>C>, Monday, 24 March 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
[Anyone notice how long dumbfucks can harbor grudges?]
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ryan Schreiber's treatment of potential writers is, at best, unprofessional and reflects poorly on Pitchfork.
At worst, it is repellent and makes the whole enterprise look abusive.
― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Monday, 24 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
But BBR = class in a glass. Uptown Top Ranking is off England Made Me, the first album.
Search in particular for The Worst Of Black Box Recorder, their B-Sides album - it's an import, I think, but it's possibly their best actual album. The cover of Rock 'n' Roll Suicide is particularly swish.
The Auteurs... well, I've got at least two of their albums (I think I might have another, but I forget)... not sure I fully appreciate 'em just yet.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
CD1 has the full shot of the car with all three BBR's bleeding over it. The B-Sides are Rock 'n' Roll suicide and The Chocolate Layers remix of The Facts Of Life. It cost me £1.99 from the Our Price opposite Brixton tube, back when it was an Our Price and not a V.Shop or Megastore Express or whatever the hell it's called now. First single I ever bought. Nostalgia... *blub*
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Fine, let's go:
"Do you know the history / Of the British Isles? We are born to be servile / Would you die for your country?"
Is Haines talking about England specifically? Or is he positioning "England" more in relation to the rest of the world (say, France - "French Rock'N'Roll," "New French Girlfriend," those "continental cigarettes" in "Johnny & The Hurricanes," "There were real Europeans in bars across the land" etc), as opposed to, say, England vs Wales?
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
[Haines is] at pains to express his oblique liking for England - the country which, after all, made him. But with Black Box Recorder's debut album England Made Me, he reckons the press got it all wrong. "They got this angle that somehow it was a critique of New Labour, but really it was just an affectionate look at the rotten aspects of England that John (Moore) and myself enjoy," he explains. "We would have a game of good thing, bad thing. Lord Lucan? Good thing. Jeffrey Archer? Definitely good thing. You can simplify most things in life and it straddles some areas of bad taste. But we have an affection for the rotten-ness of England that we remember growing up in. I can remember those sorts of things more than anything to do with popular culture."
The kind of incident that influences Haines' writing is certainly not whether Posh'n'Becks have new hairstyles. "I remember the whole Jeremy Thorpe incident with some fondness. And the John Stonehouse disappearance. Those are the kind of things that informed my childhood and they came back on England Made Me," he says. "I'm sure there are other incidences on that album - on Hated Sunday: 'Oh to be in England on a Sunday, dear old dismal England on a Sunday...' That's said meaning we'd rather be here than anywhere else. There are references to English things, but they're affectionate. And if not affectionate then observational."
So it's official - Luke Haines likes Blighty after all. "And the older I get the more I dislike foreign travel anyway. Travel narrows the mind," he offers.
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