The problem with that statement is that Prince at his best is not only "Kiss", "Alphabet St", "Housequake" and "When Doves Cry"; it's also "1999", "I Wanna Be Ur Lover", "Mountains" and "Gett Off".
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i think we may have different tastes in prince....
still i don't see those songs as being particularly busy or overstuffed like recent stuff
(though full disclosure: last album i heard was the one my wife got free when she went to a concert...it seemed just "fine" in the same way i guess like a new mark knophler solo album would seem to a dire straits fan)
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, I'm 36 seconds in and it's already been like 10 different songs, WTF? So the intro stuff, and then when the big power chords and organ and I'm like, "Is he doing, like, a Boston album?" Then the other guitar groove kicks in and I'm thinking, "OK, ok, this could be like an updated version of 'Dirty Mind'-era shit," but then it started sucking. Does it get better? Do I click "Play" again?
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
answers to your last questions are "no" and "no"
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Too late.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
This is why we can't have nice things.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, god, the guitar solo. That is the worst guitar tone I've ever heard on a Prince song. AND NOW ACOUSTIC GUITAR OH JESUS MAKE IT STOP.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Thank you, Prince, for pooping in my ears today. It made me appreciate good music even more.
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
just for reference, here's prince's vikings song
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/prince-vikings-song-audio_n_432433.html
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
at least with that, I had a desire to play it 7 times in a row (largely because I couldn't believe wtf it was I was hearing)
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i disagree what is "crammed in" to, say "Kiss" or "When Doves Cry"?
but the extended version of "kiss" is just as wacky and overstuffed as nu-prince. "when doves cry" has gospel vocals, neo-classical keyboard breaks, guitar solos, etc, but it's a great song and all that stuff elevates it even more.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
ok y'all i give...i guess i just thought saying lots of classic prince jams were minimal was like ac/dc has loud guitars but i retract my statement (also i'm not the hugest prince fan to begin with)
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince used to be able to make minimal maximal.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
and maximal minimal?
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know what's sadder, the fact that this song exists or the fact that lots of people on the "Tell us what you think" link are praising it.
― Fetchboy, Friday, 26 February 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince's diehard fans are pretty diehard.
― mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
if I could hack that link and replace it with a copy of T-99's "Anesthesia", I would
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I'm a pretty diehard fan - I will even tell you a couple of things on "Planet Earth" are worth your time - but even I couldn't defend this. Or that Vikings tune.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 26 February 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this new song sounds like hes just recording for recordings sake even more than usual, but i kinda like it just to see how bad hes really gotten. i wish he would stop doing these 'message' type songs where he thinks hes making some really important point. the structure is sort of like two 3 chains of golds packed into one.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god. I'm really doing myself a favor by avoiding this, aren't I?
― The Reverend, Friday, 26 February 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I will even tell you a couple of things on "Planet Earth" are worth your time
this seems to be the pattern more often than not with his post-90s material - there will be one or two tracks that are clever/engaging/remind you why he was so great, and then the rest is just crap. the weirdest thing to me is that his ear for production and composition just seems to have gotten steadily shittier and shittier. like he doesn't actually know what a good guitar or drum sound is anymore, he just has too many hi-tech toys that he's busy fooling around with. dude's aesthetic standards are shot.
― mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this minimal=good, maximal=bad division is bogus. Prince has done a lot of great maximal songs, like "Mountains", "Alphabet St.", "Sexy MF", "Gett Off", "Joint 2 Joint", "Gold", the 12 inch mix of "I Wish U Heaven", "Pink Cashmere", "Paisley Park", etc. And some of his minimal stuff is pretty boring, like half of Batman and Come. This new song is bad, but that's just because he wrote a bad song, not because every maximal thing he does is awful and every minimal thing good.
― Tuomas, Friday, 26 February 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
you have a strange definition of "maximal"
not that that's in any way surprising
― mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, Alphabet St...? WTF that song has one drum loop, some chicken scratch guitar, slap bass, a guitar solo, a bunch of vocals and a few synth horn stabs. and structurally it has one verse that repeats throughout the entire song.
― mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this song is like an ipod shuffle type song
but its entertainingly bad/funny in a oh god can he really have gotten this bad sort of way
almost endearingly bad
"he doesn't actually know what a good guitar or drum sound is anymore, he just has too many hi-tech toys that he's busy fooling around with. dude's aesthetic standards are shot."
otm
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
oddly this level of crap almost makes me love prince even more
never going to see him live anymore though
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
― mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 26, 2010 2:29 PM Bookmark
I was thinking just a moment ago that "Alphabet St." is maximalist in the way that Basement Jaxx are. There are tons of weird details tucked away into corners that don't hugely announce themselves and aren't necessarily going on all at the same time, but add up to dozens of different elements appearing over the course of the song.
― The Reverend, Friday, 26 February 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
WTF is Prince using MS Songsmith now?
lolllllllllllllllll
This song isn't bad imo but it is extremely silly.
― A Memorable Fancy (Abbott), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
if it is maximalist, his old stuff is not maximalist in the "sounds like 12 jacked up high school bands' top song on myspace thrown in a blender"
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
It's kind of like he finally got around to reading all those reviews of Midnite Vultures 10 years ago that said it was aping Prince & he decided to ape Midnite Vultures in turn.
― A Memorable Fancy (Abbott), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
but every track of midnite vultures, for 15 seconds at a time.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, this is exactly why I called is maximalist. The whole Lovesexy is like this, the songs have the basic grooves, but they take weird detours and add and decrease all sorts of elements all the time. When I'm talking about maximalism I meant maximalism within Prince's oeuvre. It's not like Lovesexy is the world's most bombastic album, but I think it was a pretty big change of direction after Sign 'O' the Times (and Prince followed that direction all through the nineties). I know a lot people don't much care for Lovesexy, but I think it proved he could do a more maximal sound in a cool and interesting way. Too bad it looks like he can't do that anymore.
― Tuomas, Friday, 26 February 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't know where to put this, but I wanted to share, and this is as good a place as any:
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0gyj9jdmD1qbp7xlo1_r1_500.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
XD
― jagger edge (The Reverend), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
batgirl is hot imo
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 10 May 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread has taken a good turn
batman's posture imo
― jagger edge (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't tell if he's angry or about to start the Batusi.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
In the case you didn't know, a recent storyline in Batman and Robin featured a villain who was inspired by Prince, and specifically by his look in Purple Rain - check the homage to the Purple Rain cover in this issue cover:
http://www.ifanboy.com/images/ifanboy/Batman%20and%20Robin%206.jpg
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"I only want to see you laughing/At Mr. Bruce Wayne"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/07/05/prince-world-exclusive-interview-peter-willis-goes-inside-the-star-s-secret-world-115875-22382552/
"The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
MTV isn't the only thing that was once hip and is now outdated...
― ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link
last week in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUKA7usm4C0
― Kaiser Size, Thursday, 8 July 2010 07:30 (thirteen years ago) link
this prince character might be on to something:
http://www.newsweek.com/1995/02/26/the-internet-bah.html
― latebloomer, Monday, 12 July 2010 07:49 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.swift.fm/bizmarkee/song/63161/
if that's really prince on everything, as a teenager, wow. he's a better drummer than i thought.
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
That's it, I quit music, I'm retiring... Oh wait I just went and listened to that Vikings track - I un-retire.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i56.tinypic.com/34zmtjd.gif
― Cunga, Sunday, 14 November 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:21 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
where'd you ever get the impression Prince isn't a dope drummer!?
― deej otm? (some dude), Sunday, 14 November 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah at least two of the times i've seen him he's taken a turn on the drums and rocked the hell out.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
"Tambourine"!
― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
and without looking it up, i think there are a bunch of songs on 1999 and purple rain that are basically him on everything.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link