Rolling Teenpop 2006 Thread

And here's another performance of the same song, the sound clearer but thinner, the camera giving you a great view of her.

http://www.pandora.com/?sc=sh123684599888936884

(Brie Larsen just segued into the Flower Kings, who seem to be singing about "looking for god's grace among cosmic dinosaurs" or something, so maybe they're Christian rock. Also, I don't think I like them; I'll probably nix them. But first I'll give 'em a chance.)

(Yeah, definitely Christians: "The untold Genesis of man," wow. Song just ended, and I'm still not sure how much I liked it. There was something psychedelic about it which I didn't mind. Now Christy Carlson Romano doing "Bounce," which I liked a lot right away.)

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They also seem to have every weirdo Disney one-off ever, people like Analiese Vanderpol and Zetta Bytes and Christy Carlson Romano (most of her stuff I've heard is great). They added better station editing options for fine tuning private stations, very cool.

Jessica Poptastic has a nice station, too, Poptastic Radio.

i love ashlee's voice when she has a song to match it - a big, hooky, pop/rock monster along the lines of 'la la' and 'boyfriend' which she can pretty much shout over. i don't think her vocal limitations are what make the album fail. but the songs! 'boyfriend' and 'LOVE' apart (and the latter...is actually awful, i think, clumsy and indecisive), there are no hooks. i have listened and listened to this album and i can't remember any melody or lyric or anything beyond this interminable sludge of guitars, over and over again (wtf are people ON about re stylistic variation) and ashlee's hoarse, slightly breathless voice left stranded above it all like a beached whale.

The girls are all named (there are 9 of them) and they all get nicknames in the form of "___ Girl" like "Party Girl" and "All-Star Girl." Also, they get individual bios and the first thing is "Always Says" producing such answers as "Snap!" and "Guess what?" and "Whatever..." and "Oh yeah!" which I hope the girls will work on before they have to commit to a yearbook quote, because quite frankly those are super-indistinctive.

This may be one of our few major areas of disagreement!

I cannot see how stuff like "Coming Back For More", "Dancing Alone", "Burning Up", "I Am Me", "Eyes Wide Open" and "Kicking & Screaming" could be described as an "interminable sludge of guitars" with no hooks!

much much better - PARIS HILTON album. i will start a thread i think.

i have listened to this album LOADS in an effort to get it, it's worrying me as well, this is why i'm going on about it. but it's just so unremittingly uncatchy, it goes in one ear and out the other.

maybe if i skipped 'boyfriend' before listening to the rest.

[Sorry if this is a double-post; I'm getting poxy fuled all over the place]

Radio Disney is hardly the only word in teenpop; MTV-TRL is another concentration of teenpower, one that isn't committed to pushing Disney product (though for all I know they have the same parent corporation at this point). Cheyenne Kimball - with an MTV reality show - is hanging on at 35 in mainstream pop airplay with 1,248 spins, while Hannah Montana is getting a big fat zero. And JoJo's "Too Little Too Late" is getting 3,612 spins and rising on mainstream pop, while not showing in the Disney Top 50.

By the way, do any of you know what Nickelodeon is doing to promote music, and to promote itself among teenpop fans? I don't have a TV and don't know if Nickelodeon has a musical impact or not.

I'm surprised Hilary's old stuff isn't showing higher, or Avril's. My guess is that you find them around 3 or 4 plays along with "I Got You" and "Get Ready For This" and "Jumpin Jumpin" and "Who Let the Dogs Out." I wonder if the new Hilary will get much Disney play, given that it's going for a glossy Kylie Minogue Eurodisco sound. And I'll bet that "London Bridge" is getting lotsa lotsa lotsa kid play but that Radio Disney won't touch it.

That's because Jojo's new single just got added into rotation this week. Expect it to make a showing starting next week when the new top 30 comes out (although the positive response wasn't overwhelming for adding "Too Late," something like 73%).

what Nickelodeon is doing to promote music

The only Nick breakthrough is Emma Roberts, who was handled by one of the major labels with no affiliation w/ Nickelodeon specifically. IIRC Nick is part of Viacom, so I imagine the parent company is more interested in what's going on over at TRL, but they could make a little niche for themselves if they really wanted to, they have Jamie Lynn Spears, too (who as far as I know doesn't have any music available outside the theme song to her show, written by Britney!). Disney occasionally gives slight nods to Nick types but obviously their interest is in promoting their own artists...including Jordan Pruitt who I think is on Hollywood.

Avril might finally be burned out after god knows how long of "Sk8er Boi" (and nothing else) in the top 30.

Also re: the posted chart, keep an eye out for "I Got Nerve" by Hannah, it's probably her best. Doesn't seem to have much hope of crossing over...WBS, you might like "Nerve" better than theme songish "Best of Both Worlds"...it's streaming over at the Angry Samoans Myspace after Circle Jerks - "Red Tape"

It would be so great for the new Hilary to make it on RD, and I'm sure they'll do everything in their power to get it on the charts since it's still in house. But I'm pretty sure kids aren't going to be voting for it in "Wake Up"/"Beat of My Heart" numbers (I do expect it to do pretty well on TRL, though, maybe her stepping stone away from Disney?)

On Paris Hilton: I've only scanned the album, but I'm incredibly disappointed. People were telling me that the album was actually quite good - but even Storch's (very talented) production can't stop her vocals from grating on me. I can bear to listen to "Stars are Blind," but that's the exception. In general, she drones.

Christina on the other hand, is a delight. I'll probably be listening to the album in the weeks to come - because that brassy, big-band sound she's got is fabulous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sJMcgeDe0

You be the judge!(If it's not old already)

I listened to Chemicals React. I like the consistency in the lyrical theme ("You make me feel out of my element / like I'm walking on broken glass."). She's talking about elements/glass/chemicals, both on the physical plane and also emotionally. I get the feeling listening to the song that the chemicals reacting aren't the classical love song chemicals. It's more physical, like their very physical properties (skin, blood, bone?). This isn't novel, but it's fun for the moment, and the implication of physical romance doesn't seem par for the course for Disney. Especially when one of the singers is still on a Disney sitcom (Phil of the Future). And my sister swears by it.

On that note, I found most of Aly + AJ's songs on the Intro the Rush album. But I couldn't find Chemicals React there (I ended up using Myspace). Is that coming out on the new album?

Also, I notice that the actual playlist doesn't altogether match up with what the Radio Disney site lists as its Top 30.

And if you check Mediabase you'll see that JoJo is neck-and-neck with Nickelback for the greatest increase in plays in the last 7 days on Mainstream Top 40, while Disney is still barely playing "Too Little Too Late" or not playing it at all. (But if you combine all charts I'll bet that Evenescence has the biggest increase in plays overall.)

I'm guessing that the part that seems "Avril/Gothy" to you is the droney verse rather than the chorus.